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Old 12-09-2011, 01:16 AM   #1
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I have only had one AR, made by Stag arms. It seems overly complicated with loads of small parts, and the gas system allows the receiver to gunk up inside with powder. It's also a pain for me to strip fully (compared to the AK or SKS). Although it was a decent shooter, it was light and comfortable, and it has loads of options, it doesn't seem worth it to me to pay nearly $1000 for a modern AR with all of the disadvantages they have. Why not just invest in a cheaper mid-range carbine that shoots cheaper ammo, and get a deer rifle for shooting longer shots?

With this in mind, other than collecting, why do you like the AR? What would be your other options if you didn't chose the AR?

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Old 12-09-2011, 01:37 AM   #2
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Hey maybe you've got something there. Why not tell the US Army!

Anyway, everyone should have an AR and AK.

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its a simple design with very few moving parts. all the working parts can easily be replaced by the operator without tools. the firing pin can serve as a punch.

the parts in a ar15 tend to be more robust than whats found in cheap ak47s.

its light weight accurate the rounds dont weigh much the gas system doesnt suffer from piston oprod seperation the way aks do.

gas in the reciever doesnt effect function. a couple of members here run their ar15s in intensive carbine classes and training without cleaning and no problems.

under sustained fire if the gas tube ruptures it will continue to fire like a bolt action by charging it for each shot.

short of beating the thing with a hammer it will shoot.

i dont find them hard to clean at all. wipe the bolt carrier down wip out the upper and your good to go in a basic field cleaning.

ive fired thousands of rounds of insanely dirty blank rounds in my issued m16 without stoppages.

anyway they are great guns if your not getting something like a carbon15

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Readily available parts & ammo is really the only thing I like A LOT about the AR.
And you got to like porning up your AR.
I take my time & buy accessories used or on close out. As far as cleaning goes I'm kind of a cleaning nut anyway. With all that being said an AR is not my favorite rifle to shoot or hunt with by any means.

I probably like the .223 round more than a lot of people but I prefer a Mini & Tikka T3 for the platform.

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I like the AR platform because it's one of the weapons I've trained with. Familiarity counts for something you know. That being said, I don't own one, but that's only because I don't have much disposable income. If do get some good amount of money in my pocket and I finally get a 1911, I'll end up getting an AR. I like S&W M&P rifles, I've fondled (yes fondled, I don't often simply handle a firearm) many different models, and it's just the one that I feel like I like the most.

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I like the AR platform because it's one of the weapons I've trained with. Familiarity counts for something you know. That being said, I don't own one, but that's only because I don't have much disposable income. If do get some good amount of money in my pocket and I finally get a 1911, I'll end up getting an AR. I like S&W M&P rifles, I've fondled (yes fondled, I don't often simply handle a firearm) many different models, and it's just the one that I feel like I like the most.
I built my first AR. Took along time, but I did it on the cheap. I bought a part here & there mostly from gun shows, classified adds & take offs. Probably averaged like 10 bucks a week. It wasn't pretty but shot the same as everybody's.
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I built my first AR. Took along time, but I did it on the cheap. I bought a part here & there mostly from gun shows, classified adds & take offs. Probably averaged like 10 bucks a week. It wasn't pretty but shot the same as everybody's.
Really I think I would kind of like a frankenstein gun. Kind of like a rat rod bike, spare parts build kind of look. I'm gonna put some thought into doing it like that. But I would purposely have some strange looking mismatched stuff. Like my M16A2 in boot camp, the lower looked like it had been dipped in acid with the finish being cloudy and hazed, while the upper looked almost brand new.

I might would even throw a little duct tape on one just for the heck of it.
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Since nobody has mentioned it yet, Filthy 14.

Didn't we just have a thread like this a couple days ago?

I think something is in the air. I've been kinda grumpy myself lately.

Don't buy a POS and you won't have anything to wory about.

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I have only had one AR, made by Stag arms. It seems overly complicated with loads of small parts, and the gas system allows the receiver to gunk up inside with powder. It's also a pain for me to strip fully (compared to the AK or SKS). Although it was a decent shooter, it was light and comfortable, and it has loads of options, it doesn't seem worth it to me to pay nearly $1000 for a modern AR with all of the disadvantages they have. Why not just invest in a cheaper mid-range carbine that shoots cheaper ammo, and get a deer rifle for shooting longer shots?

With this in mind, other than collecting, why do you like the AR? What would be your other options if you didn't chose the AR?
Well why not get a gun that's the best of both worlds. You wanna go into a gunfight carring two rifles?
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I wouldn't call the AR the best of both worlds, unless it were a bullpup and had a cleaner gas system and looser tolerances.

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