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Old 05-01-2013, 11:40 PM   #21
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you need to come try out my RRA national match service rifle... it will change your religion. shooting that thing is like a week of great sex with a dozen porn stars...

there isnt anything colt pof bcm dd larue wilson etal that even come close
I could use a week like that.
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Heck, I'd like to get a week of shooting anything...

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Bushmaster (or DPMS, S&W, DelTon, Doublestar, etc) is a fine $600-1000 rifle. It will almost certainly perform admirably. And you're going to do just fine buying these, so long as you don't go paying north of $1K for one.

Just understand the market you're stepping into. And recognize that at a certain price point ($900-1200) vastly superior options quickly materialize.

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Bushmaster (or DPMS, S&W, DelTon, Doublestar, etc) is a fine $600-1000 rifle. It will almost certainly perform admirably. And you're going to do just fine buying these, so long as you don't go paying north of $1K for one.

Just understand the market you're stepping into. And recognize that at a certain price point ($900-1200) vastly superior options quickly materialize.
Rifles that were $600 six months ago are going for double that now in a lot of areas, some due to panic buying and a good portion due to HS buying out a lot of them.
A lot of Bushy's will go the distance with the better brands. If you get a lower cost AR, my advice is to get to know your gun inside and out, that way if you get one that doesn't perform like it should, you know where to look and make changes. Spreading the cost out over time can take the sting out of having a good AR.
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Rifles that were $600 six months ago are going for double that now in a lot of areas, some due to panic buying and a good portion due to HS buying out a lot of them.
A lot of Bushy's will go the distance with the better brands. If you get a lower cost AR, my advice is to get to know your gun inside and out, that way if you get one that doesn't perform like it should, you know where to look and make changes. Spreading the cost out over time can take the sting out of having a good AR.
All good points. But that's also sort of my point...if the local market dictates that a Bushmaster is a $1K+ venture, also realize that you can build a PSA for $900-1000 or a BCM for about $1200...and that's with MOE furniture, MBUS, BCM bcg, and BCM/GF ch.

Lower cost ARs can perform like champs. But I like them a lot more when they actually are in fact lower in cost.
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All good points. But that's also sort of my point...if the local market dictates that a Bushmaster is a $1K+ venture, also realize that you can build a PSA for $900-1000 or a BCM for about $1200...and that's with MOE furniture, MBUS, BCM bcg, and BCM/GF ch.

Lower cost ARs can perform like champs. But I like them a lot more when they actually are in fact lower in cost.
you have a good point Sweeper, but the problem is that right now even the parts to build an AR are more costly than they were about six months ago. until parts availablity becomes normal again, it's going to still cost more to build or buy right now,
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Bushmaster (or DPMS, S&W, DelTon, Doublestar, etc) is a fine $600-1000 rifle. It will almost certainly perform admirably. And you're going to do just fine buying these, so long as you don't go paying north of $1K for one.

Just understand the market you're stepping into. And recognize that at a certain price point ($900-1200) vastly superior options quickly materialize.
*Double post sorry*
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Bushmaster (or DPMS, S&W, DelTon, Doublestar, etc) is a fine $600-1000 rifle. It will almost certainly perform admirably. And you're going to do just fine buying these, so long as you don't go paying north of $1K for one.

Just understand the market you're stepping into. And recognize that at a certain price point ($900-1200) vastly superior options quickly materialize.
Just my opinion, but Smith&Wesson does not need to be in the same category as those other manufacturers. They make much higher quality rifles.
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Just my opinion, but Smith&Wesson does not need to be in the same category as those other manufacturers. They make much higher quality rifles.
Agree. The M&P line of rifles and pistols are very underrated.
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I think they had a few years during the '90's through the Klinton gun ban that the QC went south just because they worked overtime to keep up with the demand, which seems to be happening now with all the mfrs because of HS buying out a lot of the supplies and ammo. I have seen a few people with Carbon 15's that swear by them. From what I gather, they aren't bad for a 800 buck rifle. A lot of people will just re-gurgitate what they have heard from someone else and claim it to be fact.
Amen, I have one, although I have used it a lot, less then 500 rounds and I love it!!
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