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Old 11-04-2012, 08:18 AM   #1
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I've been studying the California Penal Code 12276.1 and while I can understand a detachable magazine being a threat to the Police since you can change magazines real quick -- I for the life of me can't understand what is so threatening about a pistol grip and a forward pistol grip. You guys have any ideas?

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12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.
(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.
(4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
(B) A second handgrip.
(C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
(D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
(5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
[B] A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.
(8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
(b) The Legislature finds a significant public purpose in exempting pistols that are designed expressly for use in Olympic target shooting events. Therefore, those pistols that are sanctioned by the International Olympic Committee and by USA Shooting, the national governing body for international shooting competition in the United States, and that are used for Olympic target shooting purposes at the time the act adding this subdivision is enacted, and that would otherwise fall within the definition of "assault weapon" pursuant to this section are exempt, as provided in subdivision (c).
(c) "Assault weapon" does not include either of the following:
(1) Any antique firearm.
(2) Any of the following pistols, because they are consistent with the significant public purpose expressed in subdivision (b):
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Don't bother trying to understand it. Just accept it and move along.

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It is simple; a pistol grip, makes an acceptable firearm, a crazy, outlaw, killer, nasty, weapon of mass destruction. I can't believe you didn't know that.....................

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Don't bother trying to understand it. Just accept it and move along.
Just accept it and move along? I'm thinking that's the problem with most of the people in this country; they're willing to accept anything the big Government hands down to them and keep on going about their daily lives. They are what's termed "sheeple."
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Just accept it and move along? I'm thinking that's the problem with most of the people in this country; they're willing to accept anything the big Government hands down to them and keep on going about their daily lives. They are what's termed "sheeple."
What Mountain Man was saying is very little of what Kommiefornia does makes sense. You live there, fight it!! It won't help though. Most of us avoid the left coast for a reason. It is your States gov't, your elected officials.
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You see evidence that the politicos have outlawed something based on its looks.

As far as danger and effectiveness, a man armed with a single 7 shot 45 pistol and a 5 shot bolt action rifle killed 28 people in a few minutes. His name was Alvin York. He also captured 132 other people. He was awarded the Medal of Honor- WW 1.

I have seen "assault weapon" defined as "capable of accepting a bayonet". Big whoop. Has there been a rash of drive by bayonetings I missed?

Politicians have aides that research how laws should be worded that the politicians then inroduce and vote on. It has been shown that in many cases they have no idea what a phrase or term means. But it makes everyone FEEL good- even tho it is as useless as a tuba on a skateboard.

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Its not because it isthreatening to police. It is because it is on a firearm. Firearms are a threat to every evil entity out there as they are meant to be used to overthrow tyranny and restore freedom.

The reason liberals fear firearms is because they cannot control people who own them. How can liberal dictatorships and death camps be setup if the victims own guns??

Why else did hitler disarm people before he started. He was a liberal as well. Everything hitler believed and did was lockstep with liberalism. Govt run everything from industry to healthcare.

Guns are a threat to dictators not police. Since california cant just get rid of guns because of that pesky second ammendment the libs are making gun parts into demons. Boil a frog slowly by turning the heatup gradually he will stay in the pot.

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Here's an example of what's considered legal in California. Notice that neither
one of them have pistol grips. How would you guys like to settle for these?



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There is a reason i refuse to live there or illinoise and you have illustrated it.

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As others have said, the feature if a pistol grip or a collapsible stock, or a flash hider doesn't make the firearm any more dangerous. The reason that those features were included in the law is because it fits the agenda of the politicians who were allowed to enact the law, and continue to get reelected.

It is a bit late to ask for reason to be applied to that law after it had been put in place. Get rid of the liberal voters, get rid if the liberal politicians, get every gun owner or person who believes in the individual rights if the constitution to leave the state and bankrupt it. Try to sway opinion and repeal the law. Or move. These are pretty much your choices for fighting it. Or stay and take it as it stands.

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