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tenntyrant 05-01-2012 09:31 PM

What optic?
Have a LWRC M6A2 I will be using black hills 77gr OTM and want to shoot from 0 to 300 yards what would be my best choice in optic and mount.

Sniper03 05-01-2012 09:46 PM


I guess my first question would be to give us a little more information on what you are looking at. Tactical or Precision shooting. Obviously there are a lot of fine holographic and reflex tactical type optics and mounts. And on the other end great applications for actualy scoping an AR Style Rifle with quality optics and mounts. Let us know where you are looking to go and I will throw our two cents in best I can.


locutus 05-01-2012 10:01 PM

Since you're going to use a 77 grain bullet, I'm going to assume you want a precision shooter rather than a "run and gun' tactical rig.

Since you're asking about 300 yard shooting, a 6X should be adequate for power. I'd take a hard look at a top end 1.5-6X42 variable like the Swarovski or Schmidt & Binder.

They're not cheap, but absolute top end quality never is.

tenntyrant 05-02-2012 12:08 AM

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I would like to use it for target and tactical I have been looking at a trijicon ta11h and also a aim point red dot I know one has magnification and one don't. I like the idea of a red dot and my range is only 300 yards so that is as far as I will be shooting but would like to also do run and gun. Here is a pic of my rifle.

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frostyone 05-02-2012 12:17 AM

My aimpoint t-1 has allowed me to reach out to 300 yards fairly easily. I mostly shoot up close and fast buy it was good to know I could hit a target at 300 with no magnification.

leftoverture 05-02-2012 10:34 AM

OK, I was reading this and then went and looked up the Aimpoint T-1. Damn. Costs as much as my gun. What is the advantage in a high end sight such as the Aimpoint vs a lesser (cheaper) one?

Gatoragn 05-02-2012 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by leftoverture (Post 788075)
OK, I was reading this and then went and looked up the Aimpoint T-1. Damn. Costs as much as my gun. What is the advantage in a high end sight such as the Aimpoint vs a lesser (cheaper) one?

High quality optics often cost as much or more than the rifle they are attached to. If your sighting system fails, the weapon is useless. My favorite deer rifles wear Leupold optics that cost nearly as much as the guns.

You don't have to spend $1k, but if you spend $29.95 on a sight, you'll get what you pay for. If you are putting some sort of battery powered sight on your HD firearm, you want it to function flawlessly.

If you want to shoot MOA at 300 yards, you will need quality optics.

If you want to punch holes in Zombie targets at 50 yards, you can send less on optics and buy a couple of cans of ammo.

Nothing wrong with either choice, just depends on your specific plans and of course your bank account.

Fixer 05-02-2012 01:07 PM

@ locutus,
MK262 is a selfdefense round. I understand why you think 77gr = target, but they have evolved since then. Read here ->

@ tenntyrant,
I would get a Trijicon TA31 or TA01. Or even a TR24 if you are not worried too much about abusive enviroments. The TR24 is about as strong as any high end scope.... maybe more, but the TA31 ACOGs are much stronger and can take big time abuse. LaRue Tactical makes the best mounts for the TR24.

locutus 05-02-2012 03:34 PM

Fixer, thanks for the link! Good info that I guess I hadn't kept up with. (I've used 55 grain M193 ball exclusively.)

Back to the optics. For tactical, that ACOG Ta31 would be unbeatable.

All three of my 5.56 AR platforms wear ACOGs. Again, not cheap, but well worth the expense.

Wi_Hunter556 05-02-2012 08:01 PM

Maybe the leupold hamr set up would be your alley. 4x if I'm correct and then it has the leupold delta point mounted on top. Same price range as a trijicon.

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