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Old 01-20-2012, 12:05 AM   #11
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The situation warrants how the state of california defines "assault rifle".
We don't need another of these tomayto/tomahto threads.

The man wants an AR in california and wants to be legal.

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Old 01-20-2012, 12:42 AM   #12
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Not sure why you are jumping on me Trip, I did give the OP the answer to his question in Post #2 of this thread - have a look. Referred him to CALGUNS as well which is the best source of information about firearms in California. The OP would benefit from spending some time there as unfortunately our firearms laws can be a little convoluted.

So am I to conclude that the folks here believe that it is in fact a felony to build an assault rifle in any state in the United States? At a minimum that is a vague statement that hinges on the legal definition of "assault rifle" which varies from state to state. I have a few AR's in my safe that are perfectly legal, and when I show them to many people the response is "that's an assault weapon."

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In california even a rubber band gun is labeled an assault rifle and requires an external band safety

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The situation warrants how the state of california defines "assault rifle".
We don't need another of these tomayto/tomahto threads.

The man wants an AR in california and wants to be legal.
Trip, light'n up people in hell want ice water in my opion should not be in there
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Trip, light'n up people in hell want ice water in my opion should not be in there
Can't argue there.
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I thought than anything that wasn't made out of rubber and painted pink was an assault weapon in California.

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My definition of an assault rifle is quite a bit different from California's, but it doesn't matter what I say. You guys have all helped and I should've said what Trip said I just want a CA legal AR.

I was wondering about this AR ,but it has a pistol grip, no bullet button and im not sure if it has a muzzle brake or flash suppressor. If I removed which of the evil features would it be legal. for example install bullet button with a 10 rd mag and removed flash suppressor, would it be legal?

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My definition of an assault rifle is quite a bit different from California's, but it doesn't matter what I say. You guys have all helped and I should've said what Trip said I just want a CA legal AR.

I was wondering about this AR ,but it has a pistol grip, no bullet button and im not sure if it has a muzzle brake or flash suppressor. If I removed which of the evil features would it be legal. for example install bullet button with a 10 rd mag and removed flash suppressor, would it be legal?
Can't see anything about the AR you are considering. You should take some time to walk through the Calguns flow chart I linked earlier.

If you install a bullet button and use 10 round mags you are good to go even with a pistol grip, flash hider, or any other of the named features assuming the lower is not on one of the lists of banned lowers.

If you want to have a fully functioning mag release then you need to remove ALL of the named features, and of course the lower can't be on the list of banned models.
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What does an ar15 need or not need to be an assualt weapon in CA. is it the tree points system or is in just an assault weapon?
The only thing it needs is a stupid legislature.
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... just to make it crystal clear, we cannot and it's not our purpose to help anyone in any way convert an AR-15 into an assault rifle. That is a felony (in any US state) ...

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It really depends on how you define the term "assault rifle." The classic definition does refer to a fully automatic weapon, and you can't convert a semi-automatic AR to fully automatic legally. But, it's a slippery term and in the common vernacular semi-automatic versions of AR-15's, AK-47's etc. are often referred to as assault rifles. Even the tag line for the heading of this forum reads: "Black rifle, assault rifle, machine gun, sub-machine gun, lots of names, lots of topics."
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Cnynrat, again just to make it crystal, I said the above because I've seen FTF moderators and adminstrators get nervous in the past when the subject starts leaning toward "how do I make an assault rifle" or "what does my AR need to be an assault rifle". I know this because I got a gentle "reprimand" from a moderator a while back for innocently answering such a question in too much detail.

People not in the know use the term incorrectly and people with an agenda use it for that agenda. We gunowners should be smart enough to avoid using terms or doing anything to advance the gun grabbers' agenda. If this seems over cautious please reread the original topic.
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