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Quentin 03-06-2011 02:00 PM

Upgrades for my two Builds
Yesterday I got my CTR and tall scope mounts so did some tweaking...

So here they are all decked out for Spring:

Daniel Defense/S&W with CTR left

Dan Wesson with CTR right (needs more thought on the sling...)

ArmaLite M15A4 with Nikon 3-9x40 left

ArmaLite M15A4 with Nikon 3-9x40 right

And here's the parts list for both AR builds: (CTR , scope and Vltor/BCM Gunfighter Model 4 charging handle not added yet)
Also I need to doublecheck my math but it's interesting the ArmaLite and Daniel Defense builds came in at almost the same price. Of course there's lots of duplication.

S&W/Daniel Defense build:

Lower Receiver:
Smith&Wesson Model M&P-15 Stripped Lower $130
Stag Lower Parts Kit $65
BCM M4 Milspec Stock Kit/H-buffer $85
Lower Total $280

Upper Receiver:
Daniel Defense 16" Midlength 1:7 CHF LW profile $374
Daniel Defense M16 Bolt Carrier Group $124
Daniel Defense Charging Handle $19
Magpul MOE Midlength Handguards $34
Upper Total $551 Upper/Lower Total $831

Daniel Defense A2/F-marked FSB (included above)
Colt A4 Cut Carry Handle (Anchor Harvey) $40
Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 1x25mm Red Dot Sight $80
UTG RS10S3 1x1.6" Rail Riser Mount $10
Sights Total $130 Running Total $961

S&W M&P15 MagPul PMAG 30rd Magazine $10
CQB Solutions 3-Point Tactical Sling $10 (used)
Misc. Total $20 Running Total $981

ArmaLite M15A4 build:

Lower Receiver:
ArmaLite M15 Stripped Lower $120
ArmaLite Lower Parts Kit $80
BCM M4 Milspec Stock Kit/H2-buffer $95
Lower Total $295

Upper Receiver:
ArmaLite U15A4CB Complete Midlength Upper Receiver $500
Wilson Arms 16" 1:9 HBAR Barrel (included above)
ArmaLite AR-15 Bolt Carrier Group (included above)
ArmaLite Charging Handle (included above)
Standard Midlength Handguards (included above)
Upper Total $500 Upper/Lower Total $795

ArmaLite E20151 Railed Gas Block Sight (included above)
Colt A4 Cut Carry Handle (Cerro Forge) $35
Bushmaster 0.04" taller front sight post $6
Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 1x25mm Red Dot Sight $80
UTG RS10S3 1x1.6" Rail Riser Mount $10
Sights Total $131 Running Total $926

S&W M&P15 MagPul PMAG 30rd Magazine $10
Giles 3-point tactical sling $35
Misc. Total $45 Running Total $971

Each build came in around $850 or so with irons and before optics and miscellaneous add-ons.

mjkeat 03-06-2011 02:44 PM

Whats the weight on the DD uppered AR?

Quentin 03-06-2011 03:00 PM

I need to weigh it on an accurate scale but I'm pretty sure it comes in at 6.5lb without a magazine. Configured the same the ArmaLite comes in at about 7.5 due to about 15 extra ounces for the HBAR.

mjkeat 03-06-2011 03:06 PM

THats pretty good

Quentin 03-06-2011 03:11 PM

Yeah there's a world of difference how these two ARs handle. A lot of weight out front on the ArmaLite.

I'm sure you love your DD build too, mjkeat. You got the same upper then went with the LW rails didn't you?

mjkeat 03-06-2011 08:01 PM

I'm really liking your DD.

I went 14.5 w/ M4 RIS II. I was going to do the mid MOE but cant seem to part w/ the DD rail. I really enjoy it. Its now my favorite. Its kind of depressing considering the piston gun was the king of the closet and has been over taken by something half its price, lol. I'm tempted to sell it and pick up another DD. However, it was my first so it'll stay.

Id recommend the BC 1.0 for your 16. Its a lot of money but well worth it. I struggled w/ the decision and couldn't be happier. Did a little side by side w/ a PWS FSC556 and it doesn't even compare. BC hands down, even on the lighter weapon it outperformed the PWS comp.

Quentin 03-06-2011 11:16 PM

Thanks, mjkeat. I really labored over 16 vs. 14.5" and whether I should go with a lightweight rail. Very tough decisions and no easy answers as you know. At least the lightweight profile was a no brainer for me after having the heavy barreled first AR. Thought about the govt profile but can't see any benefit at least for my application.

The BC is something I need to think about more. At least it's an easy install with the 16" barrel so there's no roadblock to derail me.

I imagine our two rifles compare well, similar weight and handling. Very glad that Smartgunner had that deal last year anyway! I need to track down your thread on your DD and take another look.

mjkeat 03-07-2011 12:29 AM

I dont think I even made a thread on the DD. Ill check and if not Ill do a build thread. There might be some interest.

Now that Ive gone back to school theres no way I would have been able to get the DD w/o the SG sale.

Quentin 03-07-2011 01:48 AM

Yes, definitely interest in your thread!

dnthmn2004 03-07-2011 01:56 AM

I like your taste Quentin. I being completely honest when I say I had not checked out your black stick before buying parts for mine.

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