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Old 05-26-2013, 04:10 PM   #21
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There is no question in my mind. If you are going with an entry level AR definitely go with the S&W Sport.
As far as barrel twist the 1:8 is just fine and is a very accurate twist. You would not be able to tell the difference between the 1:9 and 1:8 or even the 1:7 with the ammunition you will probably be using. All will shoot 55-69 grain rounds well. You will probably be shooting the majority of *55 grain! or 62 grain bullets. I believe the S&W Sport has new twist technology that I am not familiar with but from tests they shoot fine with the 1:8. But in an in depth test at the Gun Sight Training Center, the Sport functioned flawlessly. The testing writer advised he secretly threw a little sand on it on occasion to see if the rifle not having a dust cover would effect it that much. He advised it got pretty gritty but the gun never failed to function throughout the entire test. As you know due to the reduced cost certain things on the weapons being entry level guns were omitted but absolutely nothing that would effect the reliability of the weapon or reason not to purchase one. Good luck on your selection.

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There is no question in my mind. If you are going with an entry level AR definitely go with the S&W Sport.
As far as barrel twist the 1:8 is just fine and is a very accurate twist. You would not be able to tell the difference between the 1:9 and 1:8 or even the 1:7 with the ammunition you will probably be using. All will shoot 55-69 grain rounds well. You will probably be shooting the majority of *55 grain! or 62 grain bullets. I believe the S&W Sport has new twist technology that I am not familiar with but from tests they shoot fine with the 1:8. But in an in depth test at the Gun Sight Training Center, the Sport functioned flawlessly. The testing writer advised he secretly threw a little sand on it on occasion to see if the rifle not having a dust cover would effect it that much. He advised it got pretty gritty but the gun never failed to function throughout the entire test. As you know due to the reduced cost certain things on the weapons being entry level guns were omitted but absolutely nothing that would effect the reliability of the weapon or reason not to purchase one. Good luck on your selection.

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Thanks Sniper03 for the tips. Unfortunately, I bought a PSA yesterday for $799. I heard they were better than the M&P sport. Plus it has a dust cover AND forward assist.
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Now, while you still have some time as it ships to you.....get some mags and ammo!

And don't forget to dust the cobwebs off your camera, kuz ur gonna be post lots of juicy porn!
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Don't forget to lube her up nice and wet! Dripping wet is a-ok in my book!
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Don't forget to lube her up nice and wet! Dripping wet is a-ok in my book!
Yup! No such thing as too much lube unless it is cosmoline.
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I would say the barrel material is 100 times more important than the twist rate. I've owned CMV barrels that shot fine, but my CHF FN barrel shoots better than me. First time I had sub-MOA groups at 100 yds was with FN CHF barrel. Of course this barrel also has $500 glass and mount on top which could play as much of a factor if not more on accuracy. IMHO twist rate matters not.
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Now, while you still have some time as it ships to you.....get some mags and ammo!

And don't forget to dust the cobwebs off your camera, kuz ur gonna be post lots of juicy porn!
Dude, she's at the armory waiting for me. 6 more days! And it's a good thing I always have my iPhone ready, I'm gonna be snappin pics like a pornographer. Haha
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dude, she's at the armory waiting for me. 6 more days! And it's a good thing i always have my iphone ready, i'm gonna be snappin pics like a pornographer. Haha
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I would say the barrel material is 100 times more important than the twist rate. I've owned CMV barrels that shot fine, but my CHF FN barrel shoots better than me. First time I had sub-MOA groups at 100 yds was with FN CHF barrel. Of course this barrel also has $500 glass and mount on top which could play as much of a factor if not more on accuracy. IMHO twist rate matters not.
If you match the ammo to the twist, then it shouldn't matter at all. I think ALL my barrels are stainless because I agree the barrel material matters.
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I would say the barrel material is 100 times more important than the twist rate. I've owned CMV barrels that shot fine, but my CHF FN barrel shoots better than me. First time I had sub-MOA groups at 100 yds was with FN CHF barrel. Of course this barrel also has $500 glass and mount on top which could play as much of a factor if not more on accuracy. IMHO twist rate matters not.
Barrel maker is much more important than twist or material. FYI I believe FN barrels are all CMV.

If you like that FN barrel, try out a Noveske, Rainier Arms select/match, Kreiger, ARP, Black Hole etc etc .....Just remember, CHF barrels are not even considered target grade barrels! They are CHF for strength, not accuracy. Not say they aren't capable of sub moa accuracy, they were just not intended to be target barrels!

The barrel are much more than quanitfiable stats. Material, twist etc come second in this case. In no other part does quality control and workmanship come into higher play than in a barrel.
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