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clr8ter 03-20-2011 10:21 PM

Still confused
 
I'm interested in building an AR-15 starting w/the lower reciever, and adding parts over time. I have a couple of specific questions I have had a hard time finding the answers to.

1. I'd like all the visible parts to match in finish & color. (Matte Black) This points to buying all of them from the same manufacturer, at the same time. Am I wrong?

2. Where might be a good place online to go to get this stuff? I have looked at Brownell's Gun Builder several times. I remain unsure about my choices, and what I should be paying. (I kind of like the look of the original M-16, but with the flat-top w/picatinny rail)

3. I'm interested in an average gun. Nothing too fancy. What parts will fit the bill? (Feel free to suggest specific parts.)

Thanks in advance

bkt 03-20-2011 11:32 PM

Don't get hung up on cosmetics over function. You can always paint whatever you put together that works well for you.

Quentin 03-21-2011 12:42 AM

bkt is right, cosmetics is the last thing to worry about, just build a good rifle. But if it really matters to you that major components match in color/finish then you might want to buy a factory complete AR. Even parts from the same manufacturer vary from batch to batch so you could build a rifle with parts from just one manufacturer yet have different color and finish. The manufacturer has an advantage here since they have lots of parts and can make some attempt to match parts that are close in finish.

As far as which parts to get I think you need to give this more thought. What are you going to use the rifle for? How accurate, which caliber, which barrel profile/weight, stock/grip/handguards/rails, etc.?

To me the ideal AR is a 16" lightweight profile midlength 1:7" barrel, flat top receiver, M4/MOE/CTR style stock and MOE handguards. You might want to look at something like that and of course move in the direction you ultimately want to go. Take a look at some of the build threads for more info - and good luck!

mjkeat 03-21-2011 05:53 AM

I consider BCMs lightweight mid length uppers a great place to start.

As far as furniture color sticking to the same manufacturer is a safe plan. The same for the recievers, though you may have slight variation. In that case purchase a bolt action and have someone carve you out a nice piece of wood, :). Just playing. I wouldnt get to wrapped up in color matching.

Tommy34 03-21-2011 06:14 PM

Get it to work well on command then paint it
 
building an AR is fun and when you buy kits sometimes they well have substandard parts in the fire control group or in the many springs and pins that they put in a kit so you will have to swap them out just do your research and ALWAYS keep the basic components mill spec that way you can find parts when you need them instead of having to replace an entire half of your gun just because a fly by night gun mfg goes out of business and quits making that nifty idea they had. Ive had to do that once and its not cheap. Take your time make it work right then disassemble it than paint it or durra coat it and you will be fine. ive found that most ar's finish is the same anyway

clr8ter 03-22-2011 10:29 PM

Quentin: 5.56 Cal, mostly for plinking now, also as a SHTF gun, lighter weight overall, 16-20" Barrel, average accuracy @ 200 Yds, I sort of like the original M-16 look, but definately flat top w/picatinny rail, scope in the future, but iron sights for right now.

As far as the finish & color from one manufacturer, there should be no excuse for parts made at about the same time not to very closely match.

As far as painting it, why would I pay for something to have a finish put on it, and then cover it up with spray paint? And, if you were to go buy a car, and the paint one the fenders & hood didn't match, would you buy the car? I doubt it. If it's something that HAS to be to build a gun, so be it. I still think it would look retarded.

Sniper03 03-22-2011 11:51 PM

clr8ter,

There are several good companies out there that make every effort to produce lowers and uppers that match. I have built several from Rock River Receivers some a couple of years apart between the production of the lower and the upper I used. I can not detect any difference. One reason is they hand polish and then bead blast all of their receivers and then do the anodizing themselves with the same process and specifications. Might cost a little more than some of the others but if the finish is very important to you as it is. I would give them a look!

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Quentin 03-22-2011 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clr8ter (Post 470426)
Quentin: 5.56 Cal, mostly for plinking now, also as a SHTF gun, lighter weight overall, 16-20" Barrel, average accuracy @ 200 Yds, I sort of like the original M-16 look, but definately flat top w/picatinny rail, scope in the future, but iron sights for right now.

As far as the finish & color from one manufacturer, there should be no excuse for parts made at about the same time not to very closely match.

As far as painting it, why would I pay for something to have a finish put on it, and then cover it up with spray paint? And, if you were to go buy a car, and the paint one the fenders & hood didn't match, would you buy the car? I doubt it. If it's something that HAS to be to build a gun, so be it. I still think it would look retarded.

clr8ter, please reread my post, I never suggested that you paint it.

Tommy34 03-23-2011 05:40 AM

Wow the whole snotty paint thing was just not cool if your that stuck up about how your gun looks instead of if it can save your life then well you need to re prioritize things and I was just giving a suggestion to your question that you asked I might add and if you want to just post rude remarks to your questions then don't ask. You can always tell a veteran because they pick up a weapon and look at it as to think of how comfortable to sleep with weather than how pretty she is

mjkeat 03-23-2011 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clr8ter (Post 470426)
Quentin: 5.56 Cal, mostly for plinking now, also as a SHTF gun, lighter weight overall, 16-20" Barrel, average accuracy @ 200 Yds, I sort of like the original M-16 look, but definately flat top w/picatinny rail, scope in the future, but iron sights for right now.

As far as the finish & color from one manufacturer, there should be no excuse for parts made at about the same time not to very closely match.

As far as painting it, why would I pay for something to have a finish put on it, and then cover it up with spray paint? And, if you were to go buy a car, and the paint one the fenders & hood didn't match, would you buy the car? I doubt it. If it's something that HAS to be to build a gun, so be it. I still think it would look retarded.

Worrying about color matching the upper and lower receivers on a rifle designed for combat is, well, you know...


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