Steel ammo what does it do to the gun? - Page 2
Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > Long Guns > Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion > AR-15 Discussion > Steel ammo what does it do to the gun?

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-05-2011, 11:58 PM   #11
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
mjkeat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Wichita,Kansas
Posts: 4,026
Liked 8 Times on 8 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rodent.22 View Post
My 580 series mini EATS Wolf, nary a problem of any sort....
As long as it doesnt eat your toes
__________________
mjkeat is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2011, 01:21 AM   #12
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
ktmboyz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Steep Falls,Maine
Posts: 1,210
Liked 22 Times on 22 Posts
Likes Given: 37

Default

I have a S&W that I purchased new and has chewed thousands of rounds of steel. Tula, wolf, herters ect all with out any failures to speak of. I clean mine but I am not anal about it every time. They get a once over and a bore cleaning after each trip , every two or three trips they get a chamber brush.

I have a stag, S&W, old Bushy upper, Colt H-bar and YHM and they all chew it with out a problem.

If you want tight groups then go with some good ammo but for putting holes in paper its fine IMO

__________________
ktmboyz is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2011, 01:58 AM   #13
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
dnthmn2004's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Do you see what happens,Larry?!
Posts: 3,317
Liked 5 Times on 3 Posts

Default

So am I the only one who effin hates Tula?? WTF!

__________________
AMAT VICTORIA CURAM

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ!
dnthmn2004 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2011, 02:13 AM   #14
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
ktmboyz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Steep Falls,Maine
Posts: 1,210
Liked 22 Times on 22 Posts
Likes Given: 37

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dnthmn2004 View Post
So am I the only one who effin hates Tula?? WTF!

No I doubt you are the only one lol If my gun wouldnt eat it then I would stay away from it too. But for the price I would give it a shot and see if it would function reliably.

I my self can't see paying an extra $2-4 bucks per 20rds for putting holes in paper. Sure I keep plenty of good Lake City brass ( and some others like winchester) on hand for shtf but i aint gonna waste it on paper targets if my rifle likes the steel.

What was the AR you got DPMS ?
__________________
ktmboyz is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2011, 04:33 AM   #15
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Salt Lake City,Utah
Posts: 115
Default

I guess with these russian ammo it's just hit and miss. If you're lucky you will get a good batch and shoot it without any problem but if you're unlucky like most of the ar15 owners out there you get a bad batch and it will keep failing on you lol. It's like buying knock off china products. Sometime it works most time it doesn't.

__________________
luan87us is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2011, 04:55 AM   #16
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
mjkeat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Wichita,Kansas
Posts: 4,026
Liked 8 Times on 8 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by luan87us View Post
I guess with these russian ammo it's just hit and miss. If you're lucky you will get a good batch and shoot it without any problem but if you're unlucky like most of the ar15 owners out there you get a bad batch and it will keep failing on you lol. It's like buying knock off china products. Sometime it works most time it doesn't.
I don't believe its the ammo as much as it is the weapon and operator.

Its not the case for "most". There are quite a lot of guys putting enormous amounts of steel a year through their ARs plinking and/or in classes.

Sometimes its a buffer weight, chamber, etc. problem. I have noticed a lot of people who claim to have problems w/ steel ammo usually are shooting ARs know to have issues w/ any ammo.
__________________
mjkeat is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2011, 05:09 AM   #17
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Quentin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Idaho
Posts: 6,548
Liked 1003 Times on 705 Posts
Likes Given: 1003

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dnthmn2004 View Post
Its dirty as heck with AR-15s. I swore it off after 100 rounds. Jammed solid... S&W lower, Daniel Defense upper, LMT bolt carrier.

These are some spent cases, imagine what my chamber looked like...
No problems in both my ARs, so 3/4 of what I use is cheap steel case. Interestingly enough one AR is a Daniel Defense upper and S&W lower. My ArmaLite upper has a fairly large chamber so the steel case comes out dirty (not as much as your picture though) but it's quite clean out of the tighter DD chamber.
__________________

______
The biggest issue with assembling an AR isn't so much getting the parts together right - it's getting the right parts together. You'll remember the quality of a gun long after you forget how much you paid for it.
________________________________________
US Army 1966-69, VFW Life Member, Retired Geek

Quentin is online now  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2011, 04:05 PM   #18
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
synical's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Opelika,Alabama
Posts: 227
Liked 6 Times on 5 Posts
Likes Given: 14

Default

so for target practice steel is ok?

__________________
synical is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2011, 04:40 PM   #19
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
dnthmn2004's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Do you see what happens,Larry?!
Posts: 3,317
Liked 5 Times on 3 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quentin View Post
No problems in both my ARs, so 3/4 of what I use is cheap steel case. Interestingly enough one AR is a Daniel Defense upper and S&W lower. My ArmaLite upper has a fairly large chamber so the steel case comes out dirty (not as much as your picture though) but it's quite clean out of the tighter DD chamber.
I have a feeling my problem with the steel ammo is my barrel. Its an Olympic Arms .223 bull barrel. The tolerances in the chamber might have been too tight along with not enough gas being produced by the .223? Brand new barrel? I used a higher quality brass cased ammo to break the barrel in then switched to the Tula. Or maybe I just got the worst batch with too much case lube?

Either way, I'm in no hurry to snatch anymore steel case ammo anytime soon. I shoot my AR from a bench rest 90% of the time anyways and like Tango, I like some accurate ammo
__________________
AMAT VICTORIA CURAM

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ!
dnthmn2004 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2011, 04:41 PM   #20
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
dnthmn2004's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Do you see what happens,Larry?!
Posts: 3,317
Liked 5 Times on 3 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by synical View Post
so for target practice steel is ok?
Its not going to hurt your rifle enough for you to notice. Get some and try it out, whats the worse that can happen? Just make sure when you buy the ammo, get a new can of Break Free because your going to use a lot.
__________________
AMAT VICTORIA CURAM

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ!
dnthmn2004 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
Russian 556 steel case ammo-flash retardant dan983 AR-15 Discussion 26 06-02-2011 01:27 AM
Forged Steel or Stainless Steel? TailDragger XD Forum 4 02-05-2011 05:02 PM
30-06 vs Steel Redarrow18 The Club House 4 08-30-2010 02:09 AM
Shooting steel case ammo in my XD 45 OK? ARnoob XD Forum 1 01-27-2010 01:41 PM
Steel-Cased Ammo? gunsgunsandmoreguns AR-15 Discussion 10 08-03-2007 10:59 PM