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Old 12-06-2010, 02:27 AM   #1
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Default Spikes Tactical (y/n?)

I'm in the market for my first AR-15.
Been thinking about it for over a year and instead ended up
with my first 1911

Now that I saved up some more shrapnel, I'm ready. My cop
friend has recommended I buy from the PD arms supplier who
doesn't sell to the general public but agreed to sell to me. (FFL = yes)

They only sell Spike's Tactical, I did a search on these forums
and haven't come up with a solid opinion on Spikes. At one
point someone had posted an awesome link to a spread sheet
that I can't find, now that I want to find it.

Here are some points:
  • As close to mil spec as possible
  • What do I need to know about bolts?
  • 16, 18 or 20" barrel?
  • Effective range 400+ M
  • Twist: 1 in 7 or 1 in 9???
  • Chrome or Chromoly Vanadium Alloy?
  • Need a lot of bang for buck as I am poor.
  • No, i'm not open to building my own.

They are receiving a new shipment from Spikes this week
and they'll reserve one for me. The quote should be in my
email in the next couple days, it's expected to be an out-the-door
cost of $1,000. Is this worth it?

- I live in CA
- Sales tax is TEN PERCENT!!! O M F G!
- FFL fees
- No shipping costs

I'm not sure if the shipment includes:
ST-15 Mid-Length LE Carbine [STR5035-MLS] - $809.95 : Spikes Tactical
or
ST-15 M4 LE Carbine [STR5025-M4S] - $799.95 : Spikes Tactical

P.S. Before this I had been calling around to get pricing on used ARs.
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Old 12-06-2010, 05:12 AM   #2
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Spike's makes nice stuff. Nothing wrong with it at all. But $1000 seems steep for either of the models you posted.

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Spikes is my pick for a stripped lower........If I can buy one before they're gone or the price goes up from $99!!!

i've heard nothing bad about their gear!

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Like whats been stated before $1000 for either of the rifles youve listed is a little much.

Order the midlength from Spikes yourself and save some money. You wont pay tax, though you will have to pay their FFL transfer fee. Id hope that is less then sales tax would be on a complete rifle. If not find another FFL.

$809 and the bullet button, pinned stock, and removal of the bayonet lug adds another $44.95 brining your total to $853.95 and shipping = $875.95. Add their transfer fee and youre still way under what that shop is asking. Use that money to buy extra mags or some ammo to get it zeroed in.

You will find bad things on the net dealing w. Spikes. Most of it involves the past which the company is making efforts to change. Dont let it worry you. Spikes Tactical makes great rifles for anything any of us are planning to do.

Heres a link to the holy "Chart"
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=6642

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Spike is good stuff. Echoing the crowd when I say that's a bit pricey too.

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Let us know what you end up with.

My buddy has a Spikes Tactical, and it is very nice. I will go Spikes if I do another one myself.

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Right....
I'll let you know how it goes down.

I have yet to recieve the final quote in my email.
As priced +CA bullet button, 10% sales tax and
$50 FFL transfer I think the price is about on target
if not slightly high.

I'll call some other local shops to see what they
think of the price so I can get some leverage going.

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As far as the quality of parts Spike's Tactical uses, I spoke with their Armorer today and he said that FN makes their barrels / upper receivers and that they buy their lower receivers and parts kits from the same supplier that Colt uses.

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I've used 2 of their lowers (only one is a rifle) and fit was perfect. Give it a shot.

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