Sights for AR
Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > Long Guns > Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion > AR-15 Discussion > Sights for AR

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-22-2012, 06:07 AM   #1
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 17
Default Sights for AR

Hey guys, I'm looking into building my first AR. I'm doing some research on sights and I want to install an open red dot sight. Now, for longer range shots, whats the best thing to do, install a magnifier, or swap out to a regular scope? But that would affect the accuracy right?

__________________
minchia is offline  
 
Reply With Quote

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today - It's Free!

Are you a firearms enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Firearms Talk is owned and operated by fellow firearms enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information.

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today! - Click Here


Old 02-22-2012, 06:22 AM   #2
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
frostyone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 111
Liked 3 Times on 2 Posts

Default

What distance are you meaning by longer range shots?

__________________
frostyone is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2012, 06:42 AM   #3
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 17
Default

100+ yards or so

__________________
minchia is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2012, 07:25 AM   #4
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
CHLChris's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Portland,Oregon
Posts: 2,523
Liked 190 Times on 129 Posts
Likes Given: 89

Default

Are you talking about during some theoretical battle, switching out the optics, or between shots at the range? Is there a particular price range you are looking at? This could change the entire conversation.

__________________
.45acp, .40 S&W, 9mm, .38 Spl, .380 acp, 22lr
12 gauge, .223/5.56x45mm, 30-30 Winchester


2 Chron. 7:14 Christians must seek His face
CHLChris is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2012, 10:48 AM   #5
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
frostyone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 111
Liked 3 Times on 2 Posts

Default

For 100-200 yards a red dot or iron sights should be sufficient. I have no experience with a magnifier but have done some shooting at 200 yards with just iron sights. I believe you can get a scope mount that can be removed and put back on without affecting zero. A magnifier sounds like it could also be a good fit but I don't have any experience with them.

__________________
frostyone is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2012, 11:13 AM   #6
JGR
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
JGR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 13
Likes Given: 2

Default

For 100 yards a red dot is really all you need unless you want to try and shoot little groups. I'm able to make consistent hits on steel plates out to 300 yards with my AR pistol (11 1/2" barrel) and an aimpoint T1.

If you're looking to get a scope also and switch back and forth between optics I highly recommend getting a good quick disconnect scope mount and red dot mount (LaRue, ADM, Bobro) to make sure you keep a proper zero with each optic. It's also important to mark the exact placement on the rail that you mount each optic as you can have variances in the rail that can affect your zero. I actually just use a paint marker to mark the spot on the rail where the mount sits.

As for magnifiers I have never tried one so I can't give you any info. But for scopes what kind of price range are you looking at?

__________________
JGR is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2012, 05:02 PM   #7
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
pfev1980's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 229
Liked 15 Times on 11 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by frostyone
For 100-200 yards a red dot or iron sights should be sufficient. I have no experience with a magnifier but have done some shooting at 200 yards with just iron sights. I believe you can get a scope mount that can be removed and put back on without affecting zero. A magnifier sounds like it could also be a good fit but I don't have any experience with them.
Up until last year, in the Marine Corps most Marines qualified out to 500 yards with iron sights on both the m4 and m16. This will be my first year qualifying with a scope.
__________________
pfev1980 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2012, 05:16 PM   #8
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
mjkeat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Wichita,Kansas
Posts: 4,026
Liked 8 Times on 8 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pfev1980 View Post
Up until last year, in the Marine Corps most Marines qualified out to 500 yards with iron sights on both the m4 and m16. This will be my first year qualifying with a scope.
Times are-a-change'n. W/ the outstanding quality manufacturers are putting into optics there is no reason to not run one. The pros are immense.
__________________

“The bitterness of poor quality Lingers long after The sweetness of low price is forgotten.”
-John Ruskin

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quentin View Post
"The biggest issue with assembling an AR isn't so much getting the parts together right - it's getting the right parts together."
mjkeat is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2012, 05:27 PM   #9
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
pfev1980's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 229
Liked 15 Times on 11 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mjkeat

Times are-a-change'n. W/ the outstanding quality manufacturers are putting into optics there is no reason to not run one. The pros are immense.
Thats true. I was just pointing out that with good fundamentals and a little practice you can go from 0-500 yards with iron sights. I'm so comfortable qualifying with iron sights at this point I'd prefer them for qual over an acog. That doesn't mean iron sights are better, I've just been shooting with them for 13 years...lol.

Kind of like when I went from an m-16 to an m4 I shot sharpshooter after ten years of expert. And it was the short shot (200yd line) that killed me. Just a confidence thing.
__________________
pfev1980 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2012, 06:09 PM   #10
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
mjkeat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Wichita,Kansas
Posts: 4,026
Liked 8 Times on 8 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pfev1980

Thats true. I was just pointing out that with good fundamentals and a little practice you can go from 0-500 yards with iron sights. I'm so comfortable qualifying with iron sights at this point I'd prefer them for qual over an acog. That doesn't mean iron sights are better, I've just been shooting with them for 13 years...lol.

Kind of like when I went from an m-16 to an m4 I shot sharpshooter after ten years of expert. And it was the short shot (200yd line) that killed me. Just a confidence thing.
It's a matter of what you are used to.

It is my opinion that optics are faster and have a higher ceiling when it comes to overall performance.
__________________

“The bitterness of poor quality Lingers long after The sweetness of low price is forgotten.”
-John Ruskin

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quentin View Post
"The biggest issue with assembling an AR isn't so much getting the parts together right - it's getting the right parts together."
mjkeat is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
Adjustable sights or fixed sights for my first? getem2011 1911 Forum 16 02-04-2012 03:39 AM
ar sights jjfuller1 AR-15 Discussion 5 09-05-2011 05:24 PM
New sights on my 380 ScottA General Handgun Discussion 6 06-10-2011 08:20 AM
M&P sights? zhuk General Handgun Discussion 2 08-18-2010 02:16 AM
different sights for BLR .22 County Boy .22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion 2 07-22-2009 05:41 PM