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beastmode986 02-25-2014 04:36 AM

Shouldering a sig arm brace?
 
After doing some research I came to the conclusion it is legal to shoulder the sig arm brace. Say I bought this arm brace and was shouldering it on a 11.5'' barrel ar15. Do you guys think someone would question me at the range? Would it be smart to keep the letter from the atf to sig printed out and in the car? Whats your guys opinions on this? I am trying to what size upper to get? This seems like it would be more fun to shoot but less practical.

Axxe55 02-25-2014 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by beastmode986 (Post 1515710)
After doing some research I came to the conclusion it is legal to shoulder the sig arm brace. Say I bought this arm brace and was shouldering it on a 11.5'' barrel ar15. Do you guys think someone would question me at the range? Would it be smart to keep the letter from the atf to sig printed out and in the car? Whats your guys opinions on this? I am trying to what size upper to get? This seems like it would be more fun to shoot but less practical.

well of my best understanding the brace is for a pistol AR. at your age, you can't legally purchase a pistol or any lower to begin with. and you have to be 18 to purchase any long gun to begin with, 21 for pistols and recievers.

depending on the state you live in, you may not even be able to be in possession of a pistol without a parent or gaurdian around supervising. need to check your states laws.

Hectocotylus 02-25-2014 04:44 AM

What kind of research did you do? I am 99% sure it is illegal to shoulder it as insane as that is.


Molon Labe

beastmode986 02-25-2014 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Axxe55 (Post 1515718)
well of my best understanding the brace is for a pistol AR. at your age, you can't legally purchase a pistol or any lower to begin with. and you have to be 18 to purchase any long gun to begin with, 21 for pistols and recievers.

depending on the state you live in, you may not even be able to be in possession of a pistol without a parent or gaurdian around supervising. need to check your states laws.

Lol I know this. My dad is purchasing the the lower and what not. Its not for me but that changes when I am 18 or in this case 21.

Axxe55 02-25-2014 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by beastmode986 (Post 1515726)
Lol I know this. My dad is purchasing the the lower and what not. Its not for me but that changes when I am 18 or in this case 21.

the answer wasn't totally directed at you. there are others here that are under the age of 18 and 21, plus when others are giving advice, it helps for them to know the age of the person they are giving advice to. age makes a huge difference as does location when answers are given.

beastmode986 02-25-2014 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Axxe55 (Post 1515729)
the answer wasn't totally directed at you. there are others here that are under the age of 18 and 21, plus when others are giving advice, it helps for them to know the age of the person they are giving advice to. age makes a huge difference as does location when answers are given.

Oh yeah, I get what you mean.

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Originally Posted by Hectocotylus (Post 1515720)
What kind of research did you do? I am 99% sure it is illegal to shoulder it as insane as that is.


Molon Labe


http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/06/rabbi/gear-review-sig-sb15-pistol-stabilizing-brace/

He talks about it in the description. I also read the atf letter.

Plus there is plenty of videos showing people shouldering it and I have not heard about the atf complaining about it.



Keep in mind I drew my own conclusions, you can draw yours.

msup752 02-25-2014 01:46 PM

The ATF classifies weapons and not how they are used. The brace is designed to assist firing a pistol so it does not change the classification of the firearm.
Using the brace to fire from the shoulder is not using the product as it was intended but not illegal that I am aware of.
If it turns out lots of people do use it to shoulder fire AR pistols, then the ATF can easily reverse their decision and these will all be illegal SBR's. So don't encourage them as I may want one someday!


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JonM 02-25-2014 02:02 PM

As above the atf doesn't care if you put the thing to your nose and shoot it.

There aren't idiots in the atf running the approval proccess even if an idiot is running the agency itself.

The letter itself is worth exactly the ammount of value as the ink and paper its made of in court of law. It doesn't mean just because its legal now it won't be illegal later. Just ask the residents of newyark how they are enjoying their ar15's...

SSGN_Doc 02-25-2014 02:04 PM

People already shoulder bare buffer tubes. No real difference, if the part is considered an arm brace and not a stock.

SSGN_Doc 02-25-2014 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JonM (Post 1515963)
As above the atf doesn't care if you put the thing to your nose and shoot it.

There aren't idiots in the atf running the approval proccess even if an idiot is running the agency itself.

The letter itself is worth exactly the ammount of value as the ink and paper its made of in court of law. It doesn't mean just because its legal now it won't be illegal later. Just ask the residents of newyark how they are enjoying their ar15's...

And Connecticut. With letters now sent out for confiscation, and letters for registration that were received late now being held as possible evidence of possession of an "assault" weapon or "high capacity" magazine that was not registered by the deadline.


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