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Shihan 04-18-2011 10:44 PM

Serious thoughts on 300
 
I am thinking about getting this upper. 300BLK I think the price is going to make me end up buying it.

I may need to start Reloading.

mjkeat 04-18-2011 11:45 PM

Ammo (brass cased Remington factory 123gr FMJ) was supposed to hit retail hard already but they pulled it back for a redesign. At $11.99 its cheaper than x39 brass ammo. Its just a waiting game as of now.

Reloading for it would be fun considering all the .308 choices. I looked into it but wanted a Dillon 650. It would have been $900-1k to get started and right now my 2br home doesn't have the space. Theres a guy putting out preformed, primed brass for the .300blk. Its BradsWarehouse.com - Custom made 300 AAC Blackout Brass. If you go w/ the Delta barrel he might give you a price break on the brass.

Aaron @ Delta is a Disabled Vet from the 82nd in his mid 20s. He's a great guy to deal w/ and was very helpful w/ selecting my barrel.

I like the upper you have linked. My recommendation is going w/ a LW barrel attached to an A3 upper though.

556plinker 04-18-2011 11:46 PM

My thought is.......How does it compare ballistically to the 7.62 X 39? I haven't done any research but aren't they somewhat similar? Worth considering given the ammo investment.

Dillinger 04-18-2011 11:48 PM

Bad idea for anything other than close range encounters. See my post from after SHOT about this very round.

http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f20/300-aac-blackout-37169/index2.html

JD

Shihan 04-18-2011 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dillinger (Post 489303)
Bad idea for anything other than close range encounters.
JD

That's all I planned on, I ain't no sniper. I want to see the look on their face. :D

Dillinger 04-19-2011 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shihan (Post 489308)
That's all I planned on, I ain't no sniper. I want to see the look on their face. :D

Cheaper all the way around to get an AK/SKS derivitive then.

556plinker 04-19-2011 01:54 AM

I pulled this off the net....FWIW in comparison to the 300

REASONS 7.62x39 wAS NOT CONSIDERED
Extreme cartridge taper
Reduces reliability of feeding in AR Magazines
Reduces Magazine capacity
Cartridge taper induces considerably higher bolt thrust-
exacerbating the AR Bolt's weaknesses
Requires a larger Bolt Face which reduces Bolt Locking Lug strength-
exacerbating the AR Bolt's weaknesses
Limited projectile selection
0.311" diameter not a common option in most modern bullets


Velocity and bullet weight @ 123 g was essentially the same. Knock yourself out Shihan!

Shihan 04-19-2011 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dillinger (Post 489322)
Cheaper all the way around to get an AK/SKS derivitive then.

I have an AK, what I don't have is a 300BLK.

Maybe then I will go for .458, since that is what the kewl kidz have.

Dillinger 04-19-2011 02:08 AM

You know Shi, the .300 Blackout is kind of designed around a short barrel, suppressed application.

However the 6.8 SPC is designed to be a short range (200-400 yard) knock your dick in the dirt type of round out of the same AR platform.

The 6.8 has about 7 or 8 years of an advantage over the .300 Black in that it's been on the market longer and people have been playing with it to achieve the maximum level of performance versus accuracy versus cost.

I believe they use the same lower, with vastly different lower configs though.

The .300 BLK is still such a new cartridge and unless you plan on kicking in doors to a Methlab with a suppressed weapon, it's just not a viable option in my opinion.

JD

556plinker 04-19-2011 02:11 AM

Didn't mean to hijack the thread on the merits of the AK round, I just thought it might be worth considering.


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