 |
|
11-17-2012, 04:42 PM
|
#1
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,704
Liked 59 Times on 52 Posts Likes Given: 6
|
RRA- Lousy customer service IMO
So at the beginning of the summer I ordered a RRA "Elite Operator" for $1000. Basically a non-milspec AR-15 with many extras. Ambi sling setup, chrome BCG, a stock I like, two-stage trigger, flip sights, etc, etc. They were pushing it pretty hard for all the "extras" you would receive, and thus it was backordered by 60-90 days. I figured it would make a nice range rifle to throw a scope on, and was swayed by the easy cleaning chrome BCG on a (already heavy) range only rifle.
A couple weeks ago I received my rifle (after maybe 130 days...no biggie there). No chrome BCG. They went ahead and downgraded that (a $40 downgrade based on their own prices) without any notice, adjustment in pricing, etc. My LGS called them, and essentially their response was "we're out of chrome BCGs, so you'll take what we give you and like it". No discount in pricing, no throw in an extra mag or two...just, "we'll feel free to sell you on exhibit A, deliver B, and help ourselves to 100% of your money".
I went ahead and paid for it. I didn't want to saddle my LGS with this headache. And the truth is, the rifle is fine. The BCG isn't really a huge deal, even though it truly was a selling point in my own personal equation. But I don't appreciate a company that feels free to accept an order, then downgrade the options they promised, and collect full $$ with a "tough sh!t" attitude.
RRA will not receive another dollar from me, as well as a number of my friends. That's a shame, because their product is better than that.
__________________
SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM
Last edited by sweeper22; 11-17-2012 at 04:45 PM.
|
|
|
11-17-2012, 04:55 PM
|
#2
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: City of Lost Angels, Kommifornia
Posts: 2,851
Liked 206 Times on 164 Posts Likes Given: 44
|
Woah, talk about bait and switch. Thank you for the warning.
__________________
Assumption is the mother of all ****ups.
Know what you know, Know what you don't know. -Paul Pedzolt
"Jack of all trades, master of none, though oftentimes better than master of one" -Mynshul
|
|
|
11-17-2012, 05:53 PM
|
#3
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: May 2011
Location: 'FEMA Region 2'
Posts: 2,869
Liked 579 Times on 358 Posts Likes Given: 350
|
Here's another warning: Surplus Planet 360! My God! Lots of luck with that unprofessional, discourteous company. Even luck won't help. I'm still waiting on my order fully paid for since the middle of September. I am now in the middle of November. No contact list. No phone number. No response from email. Nothing. 11 bad reviews on BBB.  I'm still out the money and merchandise.
__________________
" ... When people who have lost everything and have nothing left to lose, they lose it." ~ Gerald Celente
"... Limit politicians to 2 terms. One in office and one in jail."
|
|
|
11-17-2012, 06:31 PM
|
#4
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Northwest USA
Posts: 5,400
Liked 311 Times on 267 Posts Likes Given: 298
|
Man that IS lousy treatment by RRA, Sweeper... I wouldn't expect that of them.
I wouldn't let it drop, I bet enough "encouragement" via email, phone calls and asking to speak to Tier 1 or a manager or whatever they call someone with authority might get you a refund for the BCG or something to offset the $40.
Good luck on getting some kind of reimbursement! Let us know...
__________________
__________________________________________
The biggest issue with assembling an AR isn't so much getting the parts together right - it's getting the right parts together.
You'll remember the quality of a gun long after you forget how much you paid for it.
__________________________________________
US Army 1966-69, VFW Life Member, Retired Geek
|
|
|
11-17-2012, 06:42 PM
|
#5
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,704
Liked 59 Times on 52 Posts Likes Given: 6
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by AgentTikki
Woah, talk about bait and switch. Thank you for the warning.
|
Bait and switch precisely.
Honestly, how huge of a deal is a chrome BCG? It's not a deal breaker. I'm sure the rifle will serve me fine. But notify the customer (during the 4 month wait) of downgrading something so prominently advertised as a key selling point, or throw in something extra like mags or a sling to compensate.
The "take it and like it, we're entitled to your money" stance is nothing short of unprofessional and undeserving of future business.
__________________
SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM
|
|
|
11-18-2012, 02:08 PM
|
#6
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 454
Liked 33 Times on 31 Posts Likes Given: 71
|
You PAID for the chrome BCG, you should GET the chrome BCG. That's BS man don't let it drop, keep on them and keep going up the food chain till you get some results.
How big a deal is the chrome BCG over non-chrome? Probably not a huge deal other than you paid for it and were expecting to get it.
Not the first negative customer service complaint about RRA that I've heard in the last few weeks.
__________________
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!” ~Adolph Hitler, 1935, on The Weapons Act of Nazi Germany
|
|
|
11-20-2012, 12:33 AM
|
#7
|
|
Crazy Azz Redneck
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,546
Liked 222 Times on 155 Posts Likes Given: 121
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by sweeper22
So at the beginning of the summer I ordered a RRA "Elite Operator" for $1000. Basically a non-milspec AR-15 with many extras. Ambi sling setup, chrome BCG, a stock I like, two-stage trigger, flip sights, etc, etc. They were pushing it pretty hard for all the "extras" you would receive, and thus it was backordered by 60-90 days. I figured it would make a nice range rifle to throw a scope on, and was swayed by the easy cleaning chrome BCG on a (already heavy) range only rifle.
A couple weeks ago I received my rifle (after maybe 130 days...no biggie there). No chrome BCG. They went ahead and downgraded that (a $40 downgrade based on their own prices) without any notice, adjustment in pricing, etc. My LGS called them, and essentially their response was "we're out of chrome BCGs, so you'll take what we give you and like it". No discount in pricing, no throw in an extra mag or two...just, "we'll feel free to sell you on exhibit A, deliver B, and help ourselves to 100% of your money".
I went ahead and paid for it. I didn't want to saddle my LGS with this headache. And the truth is, the rifle is fine. The BCG isn't really a huge deal, even though it truly was a selling point in my own personal equation. But I don't appreciate a company that feels free to accept an order, then downgrade the options they promised, and collect full $$ with a "tough sh!t" attitude.
RRA will not receive another dollar from me, as well as a number of my friends. That's a shame, because their product is better than that.
|
Sweeper22,I hate to hear about the BCG change on your rifle. RRA should own up on the mistake,and make good on the Chrome BCG.
But,You did go ahead and buy the rifle without personally contacting RRA about this,and asking to speak to someone in charge there.
Therefore,I really don't feel like you have a big reason to bad mouth them. You made the choice to accept a rifle that wasn't made to the specs that the mfg. specified.
Hopefully,RRA will make good on this for you.
|
|
|
11-20-2012, 03:18 PM
|
#8
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,704
Liked 59 Times on 52 Posts Likes Given: 6
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Txhillbilly
But,You did go ahead and buy the rifle without personally contacting RRA about this,and asking to speak to someone in charge there.
|
Uh...no. LGS called them prior to transfer. I spoke with them as well. Got transferred from one person to the next, all the while being told "tough, you get what we give you".
Paying for it was my decision. Giving bad service was theirs. That's plenty of reason to bad mouth them. If this situation doesn't demonstrate a clear lack of integrity, I don't know what does.
__________________
SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM
|
|
|
11-20-2012, 04:52 PM
|
#9
|
|
The Gunny
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Eastern,Iowa
Posts: 2,981
Liked 350 Times on 218 Posts Likes Given: 159
|
sweeper I know someone that works there. Let me give him a shout and see if he may be able to help. I'll let you know.
*edit* I talked to my inside connection. He said they stopped the chrome BCG a while ago and announced it on the website. So it was probably after you ordered it. He said ask for someone in the sales department but that doesn't mean they will refund the difference. B.S. but I guess they have that choice for now.
__________________
"Regardless of whether justified of not, you will feel sad about killing another human being. It is better to be sad than to be room temperature." - Joe B Fricks.
Member:
01 FFL, GOFFA, NRA, GOA, IAVA, VFW, ABATE of Iowa D15.
Last edited by silverado113; 11-20-2012 at 05:25 PM.
|
|
|
11-20-2012, 05:11 PM
|
#10
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 2
|
I have a RRA ar15 with the chrome BCG. Sure it looks good but just like all BGC's they will eventually need to be cleaned after every use
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
|
|
|