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Old 02-02-2013, 12:16 AM   #11
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He could have an SBR, and they need him to register it

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I think I would want more information about this issue. Did they send him a certified letter or call him. If they called who called? If a letter be sure the return information is valid. Person's name and ATF Office location. I got a call during Operation Fast and Furious from a lady from the ATF asking if in the past while with an AR Company as National LE and Govt Sales Training Director. If I had ever had the occasion to transfer a certain weapon serial number XXXXXXX. I advised if they would give me 24 hours I would research. They advised that would be fine! They advised they were with the ATF at the National Headquarters. And if I found the information could I Fax it to a Fax number XXXXXXXXX which she provided. So after hanging up I called the ATF Office and asked if a certain lady was there and if I could Fax her some information at the following Fax number. They advises yes she works in our office and her fax number was verified at the office. I did transfer the AR-15 in Fort Worth Texas to an Officer in 2006. So do some investigation as to the entire situation and verify it is truly the ATF. The class III issue is a serious issue if that is the case. So do not mess with them on it if something was logistically in error.
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Regarding the letter- show me. Something is not right, and NO- the President cannot simply declare that a given firearm is magically an NFA firearm. THAT is established by law- the 1934 National Firearms Act. The President has no authority to MAKE law, nor to CHANGE law by an Executive Order. Period.

Regarding a TRUE M4 carbine- they are select fire (tri-burst) and NOT transferrable to a private citizen. They were not made until AFTER the cutoff date for registration of full auto firearms (May 1986).
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You could have something that LOOKS like an M4- you could have an M4 upper on a full auto lower that was registered before the end date- but you will not have a true M4.

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I sold all of mine to some guy . Sorry cant help ya mr ATF .

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Regarding a TRUE M4 carbine- they are select fire (tri-burst) and NOT transferrable to a private citizen. They were not made until AFTER the cutoff date for registration of full auto firearms (May 1986).
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You could have something that LOOKS like an M4- you could have an M4 upper on a full auto lower that was registered before the end date- but you will not have a true M4.
This is what I thought to be true regarding an M4. Please everyone go back and read my OP. Not MY son, the son of a guy I work with. I have stated all of the info I have, will inquire further Monday. I do not believe we are talking about a full auto firearm, though, or even an SBR. Also, as far as I'm aware, you do not get to receive or put together an SBR or full auto and THEN transfer it, or get the stamp, that has to be done 1st.....

BTW, in NH, we are allowed to have pretty much anything the Feds say we can have. NH is a very non-restrictive state. Mass. makes up for it. I am also wondering if there are any anti-gun groups that are sending letters hoping to screw with people, and collect/get them to give up info......
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