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Old 01-21-2012, 01:23 PM   #11
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Not for nothing but I'm liking the 50 Beowulf a little more than the 458 socom or the 450 bushmaster... Just because Alexander arms is mass producing the ammo themselves... If they make the ammo expensive then no one will
Buy it so they keep the rounds around 1.10each which is not to bad at all... Much cheaper than a 50bmg tho too!! Lol

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If I had a registered full auto and I wanted something done that no one else can do, like turn it into an open/closed bolt gun or something of that nature, I might consider it. Of course that would be after I won a $100 mil or so lottery . Seriously, the only way I would consider doing business with them is if I needed custom work that required some machining.

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If I had a registered full auto and I wanted something done that no one else can do, like turn it into an open/closed bolt gun or something of that nature, I might consider it. Of course that would be after I won a $100 mil or so lottery . Seriously, the only way I would consider doing business with them is if I needed custom work that required some machining.
Why? I bet there is at lease a dozen machine shops that specialize in guns in your state. Most of them would do as good or better job then those guys. And at half the price.
I use to work at a small gunsmith shop. We did all of our own machining. There is nothing special about what they do at red jacket (other than act like a$$ holes)
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Just for sh**s and giggles, I went to Brownells and priced EVERYTHING but the lower receiver for Red Jacket's piston gun, and came up with a grand total of $1399.00. All the parts Red Jacket had listed by brand name are at Brownells. Their version cost $2285.00. That means you can save yourself $786 or so by building it yourself, depending on what you pay for your serial number upper. I guess you are paying extra for the entertainment from the show

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Just for sh**s and giggles, I went to Brownells and priced EVERYTHING but the lower receiver for Red Jacket's piston gun, and came up with a grand total of $1399.00. All the parts Red Jacket had listed by brand name are at Brownells. Their version cost $2285.00. That means you can save yourself $786 or so by building it yourself, depending on what you pay for your serial number upper. I guess you are paying extra for the entertainment from the show
That's really interesting, fsted2a! No doubt their individual parts are marked up as well but surprisingly not as much as the complete rifle. Probably because of inventory shrinkage due to pilferage and breaking so much stuff trying to figure out how to put it together!
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Red Jacket buys parts from Brownells just like we do,and they buy alot of Magpul stuff too. So when your buying something from them your paying brownells price plus whatever extra Red Jacket bumps it to. Theres no since in paying close to double for something just because its "Red Jacket"

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nothing either one of these have done has impressed me. usually i have changed the channel before the first commercial break! they are IMO, in it for the drama, not reality as us common folk know about.

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That's really interesting, fsted2a! No doubt their individual parts are marked up as well but surprisingly not as much as the complete rifle. Probably because of inventory shrinkage due to pilferage and breaking so much stuff trying to figure out how to put it together!
I think their episodes are at least a year old by the time you see them, as I have seen that particular gun on their site about a year, and they just had the episode last week in which they finished building it. What bugs the sh** out of me is that the guy that was put in charge of putting it together on the show had made so many newbie mistakes it is unreal. But you are right. I think the expenses related to the show, such as blowing stuff up, the indoor range, etc, are tacked on to the price of their guns.
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Why? I bet there is at lease a dozen machine shops that specialize in guns in your state. Most of them would do as good or better job then those guys. And at half the price.
I use to work at a small gunsmith shop. We did all of our own machining. There is nothing special about what they do at red jacket (other than act like a$$ holes)
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they arent even mediocre machinists...

my second job was running a lathe mill drill press and punch press.

i wouldnt hire em to punch out fake slugs for the soda machine.
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Tromix was the first real guy to convert the S-12 8" SBS.
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