Real iron sight
Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > Long Guns > Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion > AR-15 Discussion > Real iron sight

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-20-2013, 04:53 AM   #1
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
ArrizX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 268
Liked 22 Times on 14 Posts
Likes Given: 5

Default Real iron sight

Not thrilled about my magpul rear flip up sight. Not sure what would be better, not sure what I want but I want to keep it iron sights. What different rear sight would anyone suggest?

__________________
ArrizX is offline  
 
Reply With Quote

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today - It's Free!

Are you a firearms enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Firearms Talk is owned and operated by fellow firearms enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information.

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today! - Click Here


Old 05-20-2013, 05:14 AM   #2
Moderator
FTF_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
JonM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Rochester WI,Rochester WI
Posts: 17,586
Liked 5678 Times on 2965 Posts
Likes Given: 375

Default

Matech hands down. Next best thing to an A2 rear.

Rra makes the best non folding bolt on and non bolt on target type sights by far.

But whatever rear you get is only going to be as good as your front. While magpul yhm noveske and other flipups are good enough for combat purposes they arent anywhere near what i would personally call adequate for iron sight target shooting

__________________

"Gun control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound." — L. Neil Smith

The problem with being stupid is you cannot simply decide to stop doing dumb things...

JonM is offline  
AgentTikki Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2013, 05:28 AM   #3
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
ArrizX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 268
Liked 22 Times on 14 Posts
Likes Given: 5

Default

Its a totally bone stock CMMG ar-15. Its not going to be forever, but its got the standard I think A2 front sight post/gas block. I have toyed with the idea of putting a low profile gas block on and a rifle length handguard to increase the sight radius but have not decided yet.

Would you mind explaining how doing anything other than the standard sight post would be a better front sight?

__________________
ArrizX is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2013, 11:45 AM   #4
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
duddie10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 517
Liked 85 Times on 70 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

Diamondhead makes a real nice rear sight check it out.

__________________

you pew pew pew lately bro!?

duddie10 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2013, 12:36 PM   #5
Moderator
FTF_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
JonM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Rochester WI,Rochester WI
Posts: 17,586
Liked 5678 Times on 2965 Posts
Likes Given: 375

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrizX View Post
Its a totally bone stock CMMG ar-15. Its not going to be forever, but its got the standard I think A2 front sight post/gas block. I have toyed with the idea of putting a low profile gas block on and a rifle length handguard to increase the sight radius but have not decided yet.

Would you mind explaining how doing anything other than the standard sight post would be a better front sight?
The a2 front sight is the best one for any purpose. Its sturdy with nothing that can really go wrong with it. Anything that damages that sight base is likely going to be enough force to disable the gun.

In terms of accuracy you lose a lot by going to a detachable front sight on a rail. Rails bend and flex and a good wack can ruin your sight alignment easily.

To gain precision you go to a smaller sight post price runs between 2-10$ for a smaller sight post. The reason this helps is the post doesnt block as much ofthe target at range. The further out you go the more each hundredth of an inch matters.

When your at three hundred or more yards you stop putting the post in the center of the target and start putting the target in the center of the post. The smaller the post the easier that task becomes.

Now in your case you have a cmmg im assuming carbine and assuming your using it for ohsht, home defense and general plinking. With such a setup i would personaly just slap a matech rear on it and possibly put on a smaller diameter front sight post. Going to a longer handguard and getting the larger sight radius is kinda counter productive, purely in my opinion. I say this because your going to be forced to use a less than precise detachable front all of which have various ammounts of wobble from shot to shot and your putting it on a flexing handguard that is also changing from shot to shot.

While that setup is perfectly fine for hitting minute of goblin its a wash or worse for accurate shooting.

It sounds like your wanting a target solution out of a upper thats best for defense and plinking.
__________________

"Gun control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound." — L. Neil Smith

The problem with being stupid is you cannot simply decide to stop doing dumb things...

JonM is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2013, 03:58 PM   #6
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
ArrizX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 268
Liked 22 Times on 14 Posts
Likes Given: 5

Default

Great information, I appreciate it alot. Thats exactly what I will do!

__________________
ArrizX is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2013, 04:03 PM   #7
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Quentin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Idaho
Posts: 6,548
Liked 1004 Times on 705 Posts
Likes Given: 1004

Default

I agree with JonM, a lot of people make a big mistake when swapping out the A2 FSB on a basic AR. You might want to try an optic along with the MBUS you already have. Otherwise the Matech is a great choice and not that expensive.

__________________

______
The biggest issue with assembling an AR isn't so much getting the parts together right - it's getting the right parts together. You'll remember the quality of a gun long after you forget how much you paid for it.
________________________________________
US Army 1966-69, VFW Life Member, Retired Geek

Quentin is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2013, 04:54 PM   #8
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
ArrizX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 268
Liked 22 Times on 14 Posts
Likes Given: 5

Default

When you say optic what do you mean? Like a magnifier?

My m&p15 has a strike fire on it i was just trying to keep this one a little more basic, but open to just about anything, thanks!

__________________
ArrizX is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2013, 05:16 PM   #9
Moderator
FTF_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
JonM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Rochester WI,Rochester WI
Posts: 17,586
Liked 5678 Times on 2965 Posts
Likes Given: 375

Default

We tend to use optic to cover any sighting device that isnt fixed sights. Optic covers everything from acogs to reddots to scopes to holosights.

__________________

"Gun control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound." — L. Neil Smith

The problem with being stupid is you cannot simply decide to stop doing dumb things...

JonM is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2013, 05:29 PM   #10
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 154
Liked 31 Times on 21 Posts

Default

I like Daniel defense fixed rear. The troy line arent cheap but I prefer steel.

__________________
j4454 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
front iron sight 6.25 or 7.50?? jrl78 AR-15 Discussion 1 04-10-2013 04:29 AM
General iron sight question kmglocks AR-15 Discussion 17 04-21-2012 03:20 PM
Trying to decide which front iron sight to buy. GREGULON Optics & Mounts 2 03-25-2012 01:43 AM
Iron Sight S&W M&P9mm newguy22 General Handgun Discussion 4 05-20-2011 03:31 AM
Iron sight help spittinfire AR-15 Discussion 9 07-10-2010 10:25 AM



Newest Threads