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Old 01-27-2012, 08:47 AM   #11
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$600 Sounds to good to be true. I also live in CALIFORNIA But I would be using the AR to hone my skills for a "SHTF SCENARIO" and home/outdoor defense. I already own a .22LR REMINGTON 552 SPEEDMASTER and a REMINGTON 870 EXPRESS MAGNUM,but I REALLY want a AR to COMPLETE THE PACKAGE.

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If you dont mind building a lower " its really not hard to do " you could buy any one of PSA's rifle kits and a stripped lower and have right around $700 or less in a complete gun from a 16" carbine , 16" mid to a 16" hammer forged dissipator or there 20" hammer forged A2 From $499 to $619 plus a $79 stripped lower will pretty much build you one hell of a nice gun basically it works down to $601 shipped for a reg M4 16" Cl barrel up to $721 shipped for a 16" HF barrel dissipator with MOE furniture or 20" HF A2 rifle for another $10. You will need to buy a mag which can be had used at most pawn shops for $6-$8 and a back up rear sight at $20-$50 .

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vash1456 S&W does have several cali legal M&P15. The sport with No flash hider and what is called a cali- compliant bullet botton model. Retail is 739 but quality shop pricers are at or under 600 dollars. Darn good shooters too.

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vash1456 S&W does have several cali legal M&P15. The sport with No flash hider and what is called a cali- compliant bullet botton model. Retail is 739 but quality shop pricers are at or under 600 dollars. Darn good shooters too.
I really have no understanding why they make you have the bullet button on them , I mean the mag will go in, it just wont come out , so a person can cram a 30 loaded mag into it and shoot it they just cant take it out without it taking an extra 2 seconds. Glad Im not in Cali , IL is bad enough as it is
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$600 Sounds to good to be true. I also live in CALIFORNIA But I would be using the AR to hone my skills for a "SHTF SCENARIO" and home/outdoor defense. I already own a .22LR REMINGTON 552 SPEEDMASTER and a REMINGTON 870 EXPRESS MAGNUM,but I REALLY want a AR to COMPLETE THE PACKAGE.
In CA $600 may be too good to be true. Not every vendor ships to CA and you have to be on top of your local regulations. Still you should be able to keep the price down if you do your homework.

Check out the Calguns forum, it will be helpful.
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purehavoc I saw I think in an older rag an AR that had a real FIXED mag with NO push button. You push the rear pin out and loaded it some bolt rifle with an internal mag. Cali most really suck for gun people.

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Yeah the gun laws in California suck. My friend puts a REALLY STRONG MAGNET on his BULLET BUTTON on his AR-15 and now it works just as good as if it didn't have the bullet button. And when he's done at the range he just pulls the magnet off.

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Yeah the gun laws in California suck. My friend puts a REALLY STRONG MAGNET on his BULLET BUTTON on his AR-15 and now it works just as good as if it didn't have the bullet button. And when he's done at the range he just pulls the magnet off.
Y'know if that's legal he could sell a bunch of them! I assume it's legal since the purpose behind the bullet button is you need a tool to depress it. He can argue the magnet is a tool, which it most certainly is in the physical world (but who knows in the clueless legal world).
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Yeah the gun laws in California suck. My friend puts a REALLY STRONG MAGNET on his BULLET BUTTON on his AR-15 and now it works just as good as if it didn't have the bullet button. And when he's done at the range he just pulls the magnet off.
Hope he doesn't use any steel cased ammo...
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