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Old 02-19-2013, 06:51 PM   #91
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Might I suggest you not take the fcg down unless you have a specific reason? Seems to me I remember seeing a warning on a friends C15 regarding the pin holes widening with too many times removing the pins.
I didn't remove the fcg. I just used a magnifying glass and lots of light to look in there. But I am going to remove it today to install a JP yellow trigger spring kit. If that doesn't make it feel much better, I'm going to replace the whole trigger mechanism (when I don't have to give my left nut with the cash anyway)
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I didn't remove the fcg. I just used a magnifying glass and lots of light to look in there. But I am going to remove it today to install a JP yellow trigger spring kit. If that doesn't make it feel much better, I'm going to replace the whole trigger mechanism (when I don't have to give my left nut with the cash anyway)
Good idea as long as you are not doing it every time you fire.
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I don't take the FCG apart unless I have some really good specific reason. Same with most all my weapons, so many small parts and with luck like mine, some spring would fly to the moon and leave me with a dysfunctional mechanism

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The FCG is very easy to disassemble/reassemble. No springs will go flying. I've done it a lot getting the the best trigger action in four lowers from 7 LPKs. Mixing some hammers and triggers from different kits ended up the best combos. Anyway, multiple fittings for each lower were required but it's a piece of cake so worth the time to get smooth triggers. Don't know if this is advisable in poly but not a concern with alloy.

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I don't take the FCG apart unless I have some really good specific reason. Same with most all my weapons, so many small parts and with luck like mine, some spring would fly to the moon and leave me with a dysfunctional mechanism
I was pretty surprised to find out how few parts there were in the FCG when I put mine together. It was much easier than I expected. Go ahead and give it a try. There are several YouTube videos that will show you a couple tricks to make it a non-issue.
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Default Don't Throw the FMK Lower out with the Polymer Bath Water...

Y'know that old saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water?" Same thing here.

We're a stocking dealer for FMK in East Tennessee. We've sold literally hundreds of FMK AR-1 Patriots across the country and only had ONE person have any issues.

In fact, when she wrote and told us she'd had a problem with her lower, we contacted FMK immediately. They gave us instructions to send the lower back asap and they'd send her a new one as soon as they had them in stock.

Since she was an existing customer of ours and since we buy the lowers by the case, we had her ship it to us and we replaced it with one of our own from inventory and shipped the broken one to FMK.

I gotta say, having built a 6.8 and a 5.56 for our own collection as well as the hundreds we've sold - FMK has really done an awesome job of listening to their customers, making sure they're putting out a quality product, and really standing behind their lifetime guarantee.

Not all polymer lowers are made equal. While I can't speak for any of the other lowers y'all have referenced, I just didn't want FMK to get lumped in as anything less than top-quality.

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Y'know that old saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water?" Same thing here.

We're a stocking dealer for FMK in East Tennessee. We've sold literally hundreds of FMK AR-1 Patriots across the country and only had ONE person have any issues.

In fact, when she wrote and told us she'd had a problem with her lower, we contacted FMK immediately. They gave us instructions to send the lower back asap and they'd send her a new one as soon as they had them in stock.

Since she was an existing customer of ours and since we buy the lowers by the case, we had her ship it to us and we replaced it with one of our own from inventory and shipped the broken one to FMK.

I gotta say, having built a 6.8 and a 5.56 for our own collection as well as the hundreds we've sold - FMK has really done an awesome job of listening to their customers, making sure they're putting out a quality product, and really standing behind their lifetime guarantee.

Not all polymer lowers are made equal. While I can't speak for any of the other lowers y'all have referenced, I just didn't want FMK to get lumped in as anything less than top-quality.

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I am sure that there are good, possibly great, Poly AR's out there. Those of us who get stung with a bad one can sometimes have sour grapes. I am glad you take care of your customers. I think that says a lot about your company.
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Thanks, fsted! We DO try to take care of our customers in any way we can.

Just didn't want to see a great company who really care about their customers get tossed aside for a couple of accidental lemons.

If I can ever be of assistance, please don't hesitate to let me know! (The quote in your signature is GREAT, btw!)

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I kinda quit these threads on poly for a while, as most of those speaking negatively had approximately ZERO first hand experience with them. I put together a NFA poly lower with a Spikes upper back in late Feb. After about 600 rounds (I'm not the type to buy and store weapons......the same way I treat cars, I buy them to drive them not park them) it has been flawless. I had some concern because the opinions on poly from some of the guys on this board that I have the utmost respect for were quite critical for reasons that I found to be certainly areas of concern. I don't really beat on my weapons, I don't carry my AR daily nor have I taken it anywhere outside of the range. But after those rounds I always tore it down and went over it with a fine toothed comb. Are there scenarios that I'd probably rather have aluminum? Well hell yes there are. But for the average joe who is just target shooting (which I believe most shooters these days are) I personally think poly will work just fine.

I was at the range yesterday knocking back a few rounds and a couple guys came out with a Winchester 92, a couple handguns (one was a Beretta PX4 the other I only saw was a S&W Wesson didn't see which one) and a brand new Rock River AR that had a NiB bcg and a vortex optic. I was politely engaging in conversation and he asked me how I zeroed my optic and said he was having difficulty. So I told him what to do and went back to my business. After they fired a few shots I instantly realized these guys were part of the hysteria and had just bought this. He would run the target out about 30 feet and blast 6 or 7 rounds at no particular point then bring it in and turn the adjuster like he was wrenching down a pipe fitting then put the target at 20 feet and blast away again. The lack of knowledge and discipline in these hysteria buyers is just amazing to me. They think you just buy, attach parts and will instantly be a champion level shooter.

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I kinda quit these threads on poly for a while, as most of those speaking negatively had approximately ZERO first hand experience with them. I put together a NFA poly lower with a Spikes upper back in late Feb. After about 600 rounds (I'm not the type to buy and store weapons......the same way I treat cars, I buy them to drive them not park them) it has been flawless. I had some concern because the opinions on poly from some of the guys on this board that I have the utmost respect for were quite critical for reasons that I found to be certainly areas of concern. I don't really beat on my weapons, I don't carry my AR daily nor have I taken it anywhere outside of the range. But after those rounds I always tore it down and went over it with a fine toothed comb. Are there scenarios that I'd probably rather have aluminum? Well hell yes there are. But for the average joe who is just target shooting (which I believe most shooters these days are) I personally think poly will work just fine.

I was at the range yesterday knocking back a few rounds and a couple guys came out with a Winchester 92, a couple handguns (one was a Beretta PX4 the other I only saw was a S&W Wesson didn't see which one) and a brand new Rock River AR that had a NiB bcg and a vortex optic. I was politely engaging in conversation and he asked me how I zeroed my optic and said he was having difficulty. So I told him what to do and went back to my business. After they fired a few shots I instantly realized these guys were part of the hysteria and had just bought this. He would run the target out about 30 feet and blast 6 or 7 rounds at no particular point then bring it in and turn the adjuster like he was wrenching down a pipe fitting then put the target at 20 feet and blast away again. The lack of knowledge and discipline in these hysteria buyers is just amazing to me. They think you just buy, attach parts and will instantly be a champion level shooter.
I was probably one of the most critical, having a bad experience a few years back. It was a Vulcan, a company probably trying to piggyback of the Carbon 15 sales from Bushy. I had nothing but problems with it, so it left a real bad impression with me. From what I learned since though, Vulcan has been terrible with quality control, so I am willing to give another company a shot. I came into possession of a cheap NFA lower, so I am going to start a build with it.
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