Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > Long Guns > Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion > AR-15 Discussion > Picatinny rail and vertical grip recommendations

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-10-2009, 01:02 AM   #1
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Westy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 405
Liked 20 Times on 15 Posts
Likes Given: 7

Default Picatinny rail and vertical grip recommendations

I'm thinking about adding a picatinny rail and vertical grip to my M4. Can anyone recommend a good source (economical) and give me some feedback on theirs? What they like and don't like about them would be helpful.

Thanks in advance!

__________________
Westy is offline  
 
Reply With Quote

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today - It's Free!

Are you a firearms enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Firearms Talk is owned and operated by fellow firearms enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information.

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today! - Click Here


Old 09-10-2009, 01:15 AM   #2
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: I see you, and you will not know when I will strike
Posts: 24,301
Liked 3478 Times on 1609 Posts
Likes Given: 3590

Default

What is your end goal?

Do you want a 4-Rail Forend?

Do you want a 2-Rail Forend?

Do you want a free floated forend with either option above?

As for the vertical grip, the only one I "like" is the Surefire that comes with the bright ass light. Other than that, I don't care for them that much to be honest...

Give me an idea of what your end goal is and I can get you a couple of companies to check out...

JD

__________________
Dillinger is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2009, 01:21 AM   #3
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Westy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 405
Liked 20 Times on 15 Posts
Likes Given: 7

Default

2 rail would be fine. Doesn't need to be free floating either. I just want to checkout the "feel" of the vertical grip, hence the "economy" part!

__________________
Westy is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2009, 03:31 AM   #4
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,198
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Westy View Post
2 rail would be fine. Doesn't need to be free floating either. I just want to checkout the "feel" of the vertical grip, hence the "economy" part!
If you want to keep it "economical" until you find out if you like the "feel" or not,
you might want to check out Ergo...

Ergo Vertical Grips

mounted to one of these, on your regular hand guards....

Ergo Aluminum mounting platform

You'd be keeping it under $50 for both, and still have the ability to mount flashlights, bipods, etc to the mounting platform, besides a vertical grip. And if you didn't like the feel, you wouldn't be out much, and would easily be able to switch back to normal.

Another option, if you really want the "rails" without spending too much...

Midwest Industries - colored rails

which would allow you to mount everything under the sun

Slo
__________________
slowryde45 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2009, 10:24 AM   #5
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
TXnorton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Katy,Texas
Posts: 1,376
Default

Sometime ago, my brother had installed a forward vertical grip on his new Bushy M4. We went to the range and were sighting in his Bushy and my (then) new RRA Elite Comp. He could not hold a decent pattern even at 50 yards, and he is usually a very decent shot.

The next time we went to the range together I told him to take that damn forward grip off. He did, and was almost immediatly shooting very nice groups at 100 yards.

Those froward grips maybe OK for the "Spray and Pray" type of shooting, or as Dillinger points out as a good mount for a tactical flashlight, but I do not think that they promote good ergometrics for accurate shooting.

__________________

TXnorton

TXnorton is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2009, 08:28 PM   #6
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,198
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

another option for you...replace your HG's with a set of Magpul MOE's

Magpul MOE handguards with mounted options

Slo

__________________
slowryde45 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2009, 09:04 PM   #7
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
jeepcreep927's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Newport,Vermont
Posts: 1,110
Default

Despite the recent (maybe not recent, but my memory sux) apparent "need" for a verticle fore grip, try this first: slide your hand back to the mag well if you feel like you need to hold onto something other than the forend in a conventional manner. The only time I use a verticle grip on the mag well is inside say 15 yards while advancing, or clearing a building and I need to keep my elbows down and tight in close quarters.

Having a seperate verticle grip that is only 3-4 inches ahead of the mag well makes not a lot of sense to me. Plus it's added weight and more crap hanging off the weapon making it unwieldy. If the grip includes a light that is a plus, but is not needed to mount a light just the same. Just a thought before you spend the money no matter how little.

__________________

"People live too long, dogs don't live long enough" - FTF Member-

jeepcreep927 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2009, 01:19 PM   #8
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1
Default Quad rails and vertical grips

As for an economical quad rail goes, I like the Mako Groups GMG Rail. I have them on two of my AR's. They can be purchased for about $60.

GMG AR15 / M4 Aluminum Quad Rail: Mako Security, Inc.

I also agree with the other poster about vertical grips, they are of best use in CQB applications . Mako does have a couple of folding grips but I like their magwell grip. I have one on my AR pistol and it makes it much easier to handle.

Magazine well grip for AR15/ M16 /M4: Mako Security, Inc.

Hope some of this helps.

__________________
Billetproof is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
First Aid Recommendations? SandWWoman Hunting Forum 9 07-16-2010 06:29 AM
Picatinny rail for Mossy 500 w/ heat shield... supergus General Shotgun Discussion 5 07-11-2009 11:59 PM
Gun Recommendations? battyforgattys Hunting Forum 9 10-24-2008 08:33 PM
7.62x39 Recommendations jerryb Ammunition & Reloading 2 07-03-2007 12:32 PM
harris bipod picatinny adaptor fantasy Firearm Accessories & Gear 0 06-13-2007 05:33 PM