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Old 12-21-2010, 05:11 PM   #11
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Yes, most of my shooting will be from a bench rest or bi-pod at the 200 or even some 300 yd distances. Here on eastern Long Island it's slim pickins when it comes to public ranges. But I get the message that it's all about precision. And that down the road it would be nice to already have a quality scope for longer distances, so with that in mind I'm looking at Nikon, only bc a friend of mine works there and can get deep discounts for me. Diggsbakes, that website has great prices for gently used merchandise, I thank you for that, but the Nikon connection is too attractive to ignore. And thank you Sniper03 for the tip about a proper rail mount. Anyway, Ken's 'bigger is better' philosophy strikes a chord and I was wondering if the following scopes would be good choices, and which one would be best for me; first I was looking at the m-223 which is 3-12 x 42, but now I'm inclined to consider the Monarch line 4-16 x 50, 6-24 x 50, 8-32 x 50, or the Gold 2.5-10 x 50. Ken would probably say get the 8-32 lol, and I would cause of the 32 power, but is it possible the 8 power is too strong for 200 yds, that there's no option for less than 8. Let me just say that being the novice I am, I don't know what a target would look like thru these quality scopes.
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Before you buy also have your friend show you a 30mm tube scope!
Unbelievable difference in light gathering. Of course price is likely a consideration. But take a look at one anyway. I have a Leupold VX III in 3.5 - 10 X 50. Model 54912 30 mm Tube with Illuminated Reticle that I like. But I also have one of the new Nikon Coyote Scopes in 1" tube that is very clear. But anyway save your money and buy the best optics you can. Someone has said we normally do it all wrong! We buy a good rifle and put a cheap scope on it when we should buy the best scope possible and put it on a rifle! Nikon makes some good quality scopes.
Just don't forget the mounting issue.
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I'm running leupold 6-18x40 target on both my 308 and 223.

Fine duplex on the 308, target dot on the 223.
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Yes, most of my shooting will be from a bench rest or bi-pod at the 200 or even some 300 yd distances. Here on eastern Long Island it's slim pickins when it comes to public ranges. But I get the message that it's all about precision. And that down the road it would be nice to already have a quality scope for longer distances, so with that in mind I'm looking at Nikon, only bc a friend of mine works there and can get deep discounts for me. Diggsbakes, that website has great prices for gently used merchandise, I thank you for that, but the Nikon connection is too attractive to ignore. And thank you Sniper03 for the tip about a proper rail mount. Anyway, Ken's 'bigger is better' philosophy strikes a chord and I was wondering if the following scopes would be good choices, and which one would be best for me; first I was looking at the m-223 which is 3-12 x 42, but now I'm inclined to consider the Monarch line 4-16 x 50, 6-24 x 50, 8-32 x 50, or the Gold 2.5-10 x 50. Ken would probably say get the 8-32 lol, and I would cause of the 32 power, but is it possible the 8 power is too strong for 200 yds, that there's no option for less than 8. Let me just say that being the novice I am, I don't know what a target would look like thru these quality scopes.

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Yes, most of my shooting will be from a bench rest or bi-pod at the 200 or even some 300 yd distances. Here on eastern Long Island it's slim pickins when it comes to public ranges. But I get the message that it's all about precision. And that down the road it would be nice to already have a quality scope for longer distances, so with that in mind I'm looking at Nikon, only bc a friend of mine works there and can get deep discounts for me. Diggsbakes, that website has great prices for gently used merchandise, I thank you for that, but the Nikon connection is too attractive to ignore. And thank you Sniper03 for the tip about a proper rail mount. Anyway, Ken's 'bigger is better' philosophy strikes a chord and I was wondering if the following scopes would be good choices, and which one would be best for me; first I was looking at the m-223 which is 3-12 x 42, but now I'm inclined to consider the Monarch line 4-16 x 50, 6-24 x 50, 8-32 x 50, or the Gold 2.5-10 x 50. Ken would probably say get the 8-32 lol, and I would cause of the 32 power, but is it possible the 8 power is too strong for 200 yds, that there's no option for less than 8. Let me just say that being the novice I am, I don't know what a target would look like thru these quality scopes.
8x is not to strong for 200 at all.
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With no regard to price, I would recomment at least a 4-16 power. when you start aiming at golf ball sized targets at 200 yards, and your optic only goes up to 8 power, you will curse yourself for not getting something more powerful.
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let me rephrase that- since most variable scopes are 4x zoom, ie 2.5-10,
4-16, 6-24, 8-32 etc, can you think of any circumstance where you would actually prefer less magnification than 8x? Or is that really not an issue. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts whatever variable scope one has it's always cranked up to maximum power anyway, lol.
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No, I don't see the need for shooting anything with less than 8 power, except for maybe shooting at 25 yards. That's just my experience. But you will definitely not have your scope cranked up all the way. Just wait till you are shooting at the range and there is alot of mirage, believe you me, you will have that scope turned down.
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Default Spike Tactical optics?

I'm digging this thread as I am starting my 10-day waiting period. Right now
it comes with standard iron sights on the carry handle. The Spike Tactical
does have a flat top I can mount an optic to.

Ideally here are some points I would like in a scope:
  • Man-sized target at 400 yards (not further than)
  • Head-sized (or smaller) target at 200 yards
  • Quick target acquisition
  • Bonus if it works well in low light


P.S. I know so little about optics, I don't understand all the numbers you
are posting as this is my first long rifle.
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I'm digging this thread as I am starting my 10-day waiting period. Right now
it comes with standard iron sights on the carry handle. The Spike Tactical
does have a flat top I can mount an optic to.

Ideally here are some points I would like in a scope:
  • Man-sized target at 400 yards (not further than)
  • Head-sized (or smaller) target at 200 yards
  • Quick target acquisition
  • Bonus if it works well in low light


P.S. I know so little about optics, I don't understand all the numbers you
are posting as this is my first long rifle.
Sounds like you need a magnified optic with a off-set red dot.
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