Longunner, you can find the red/green dot Vortex Strikefires for $140-180. They come with 2X magnifiers, hold zero, long battery life, waterproof to 50ft, lifetime warranty, and require no additional mounts. You can't do better for under $200 in my opinion. Outstanding value.
I have a $1400 Daniel Defense, with a $0 optic on it. Not sure what's wrong with that. I like it.
I have no problem with iron sights. I'll take them over a $200 optic any day of the week.
My problem is with the Kart-Mart "Blue Light Special" optics on a nice rifle.
Would you put K-Mart "economy" tires on a Mercedes?? (I wouldn't put them on a Kia!
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