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Old 06-30-2011, 01:51 AM   #1
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Okay. So I want one and never shot one. I've seen a lot though and I know there's a $hit ton of posts on here about them.

So there's a store close by that sells them for $850 to $1200. Stainless, blued, matt, whatever.

I'm not reading 2000 different threads (I've already read a slew) so what's the benefit of buying the bits and pieces and building my own rather than just buying a completed firearm besides the fact that I can drag the purchases out so that my wife doesn't complaining about me already having a ton of guns???

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Okay. So I want one and never shot one. I've seen a lot though and I know there's a $hit ton of posts on here about them.

So there's a store close by that sells them for $850 to $1200. Stainless, blued, matt, whatever.

I'm not reading 2000 different threads (I've already read a slew) so what's the benefit of buying the bits and pieces and building my own rather than just buying a completed firearm besides the fact that I can drag the purchases out so that my wife doesn't complaining about me already having a ton of guns???
I just started building my own AR15. So far I have saved quite a bit of money from building the lower receiver myself. I imagine it would save much more if I was to build the upper receiver myself as well. The AR15 I'm building has a Spike's Tactical Stripped lower, with PSA MOE lower parts kit and PSA MOE stock kit. My Upper is also from PSA, 16" Carbine length made with 4150 steel, 1:7 twist and chrome lined with premium bolt carriage group. It cost me total of $780 including all fees like FFL transfers and shipping. For the same AR with similar spec pre-assembled I would have to spend at LEAST $1000 if not much more. And by building your own rifle you will learn how each different part works and will be able to fix your own gun if anything was to happen to it. Also by building my own rifle I was able to customized it to my preference.
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So....... What were the other posts for??

You want to build it so you know how the damn thing works.

Buying an AR means you have the pocketbook to join the party.

Building your own AR says you have the smarts to be able to join the party, the ability to work on it, adjust it, change parts, evaluate the latest "toy surprise" to hit the market and actually know what you are talking about.

To put it a bit more PERSONALLY......

Two guys show up at the range:

Guy A has the latest, greatest, top of the line, custom built rig by "insert EPIC name here. Unpacks said weapon from the hip new Black Ops hard case and unfolds his bi-pod while looking around for oohhs and aahhs to rain down upon him.

Guy B has a weapon that he built himself, recognizes what I have on my table and asks me a simple question about a piece of gear that I chose, that he had been eyeing.

You want to know who I am going to want to share some range time with??

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So....... What were the other posts for??

You want to build it so you know how the damn thing works.

Buying an AR means you have the pocketbook to join the party.

Building your own AR says you have the smarts to be able to join the party, the ability to work on it, adjust it, change parts, evaluate the latest "toy surprise" to hit the market and actually know what you are talking about.

To put it a bit more PERSONALLY......

Two guys show up at the range:

Guy A has the latest, greatest, top of the line, custom built rig by "insert EPIC name here. Unpacks said weapon from the hip new Black Ops hard case and unfolds his bi-pod while looking around for oohhs and aahhs to rain down upon him.

Guy B has a weapon that he built himself, recognizes what I have on my table and asks me a simple question about a piece of gear that I chose, that he had been eyeing.

You want to know who I am going to want to share some range time with??

JD
I've put single shot, pump, and semi auto .22's and semi auto and pump 20, and 12 gauge shotguns and one single shot 10 gauge together from nothing but pieces in a box.
What's the difference? A receiver is a receiver. A barrel is a barrel (to a point of course), a trigger group is a trigger group, a scope is a scope.
So what's the benefit of searching, ordering, and building it myself??? besides spending a few hundred a month and explaining to the wife why I just dropped 1200 in one shot???
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So you have your building skills under your belt. That's good.

I didn't, before I built my AR. When I decided to switch out my end plate last week (for a QD sling mounting point), it took me only 3 minutes because I'd already handled all those parts when I put it together myself last summer (using JD's instructions, BTW).

For me, building it was a necessity. Maybe for you it would just be fun.

The only answer I could see that might help you decide is that a few of those parts you'd be able to upgrade a tad by purchasing parts separately instead of in a pre-built rifle.

Do you want us to convince you? Or have you already decided and want some external confirmation of your opinion?

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Building is fine and you learn a lot but I prefer to purchase the upper assembled and put together the lower myself. Ive done a few uppers myself but still would rather purchase it ready to go.

Do a complete build once and see what you think.

You don't need to drop $1200 in one shot. There are quality ARs for under $900 new. Or you can purchase a slightly used upper and lower.

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I've put single shot, pump, and semi auto .22's and semi auto and pump 20, and 12 gauge shotguns and one single shot 10 gauge together from nothing but pieces in a box.
What's the difference? A receiver is a receiver. A barrel is a barrel (to a point of course), a trigger group is a trigger group, a scope is a scope.
So what's the benefit of searching, ordering, and building it myself??? besides spending a few hundred a month and explaining to the wife why I just dropped 1200 in one shot???
Closed action, manual feeds. Apples and baseballs.

You want a complete stick? Buy one. You obviously have broke your gums on the basics in the firearms realm.

But if you want to truly KNOW the platform you are thinking about, you will build one. Hands on experience will defeat a thick pocket book everyday of the week.

Personally I don't care what you choose to do, it's your money and I already know the platform, so I am covered.

Make the choice that is right for you, personally, in your realm.

Me? I am glad that I bought my rifle, then hated everything about it and decided to take on a build. Then I assembled a ton of full rifles to get to understand the system as Stoner designed it and with parts from across the spectrum.

Now I have no worries about what I will, and what I will not, be able to do with the weapon system when the Space Zombies come....

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Ive got both fully assembled factory ar15 and ones ive paeted together. Both are reliable and accurate. My self builds are much less$$$$$ for the same functionality.

Just expect to spend about 10% more for the company your buying from to assemble it for you.

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Okay. So I want one and never shot one. I've seen a lot though and I know there's a $hit ton of posts on here about them.

So there's a store close by that sells them for $850 to $1200. Stainless, blued, matt, whatever.

I'm not reading 2000 different threads (I've already read a slew) so what's the benefit of buying the bits and pieces and building my own rather than just buying a completed firearm besides the fact that I can drag the purchases out so that my wife doesn't complaining about me already having a ton of guns???


Alas, I cannot state what has already been stated.
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Ive got both fully assembled factory ar15 and ones ive paeted together. Both are reliable and accurate. My self builds are much less$$$$$ for the same functionality.

Just expect to spend about 10% more for the company your buying from to assemble it for you.

Perfect.
that's the info I wanted.
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