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Old 06-03-2009, 01:25 AM   #21
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I'm only 5'10 and the A2 fits me fine. In fact it's actually shorter than my classic bolt gun stocks.
...only 5'10 is that the new minimum? lol I can hold an A2 no problem. Problem comes when it comes to looking down the site I like to have it closer to my eye. It just feels more comfortable being able to grip the gun tightly and re-enforce it with more shoulder.
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Old 06-23-2009, 06:24 AM   #22
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this was taken from ar15.com Work in progress: NYS Gun Laws Resource & FAQ ***Read it n00bs!!!*** - AR15.COM
it gives a good overveiw of the nys laws

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this was taken from ar15.com Work in progress: NYS Gun Laws Resource & FAQ ***Read it n00bs!!!*** - AR15.COM
it gives a good overveiw of the nys laws
Thanks, this helps out big time.
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Old 06-23-2009, 03:30 PM   #24
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...only 5'10 is that the new minimum? lol I can hold an A2 no problem. Problem comes when it comes to looking down the site I like to have it closer to my eye. It just feels more comfortable being able to grip the gun tightly and re-enforce it with more shoulder.
LOL - didn't anyone ever tell you it's the gun that makes the man? Or put another way, "God created all men, Sam Colt made them equal"...

My AR's have scopes so I don't rely on the A2 sights.
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ASSAULT WEAPONS


It shall be unlawful to possess any “assault weapon”
or “large capacity ammunition feeding device.” So called
assault weapons lawfully possessed prior to September
14, 1994 and large capacity ammunition feeding devices
manufactured prior to such date can continue to be
lawfully possessed..

“Assault weapon” is defined as:
A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable
magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics:
• a folding or telescoping stock;
• a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
of the weapon;
• a bayonet mount;
• a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate
a flash suppressor;
• a grenade launcher.

• A semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following
characteristics:
• a folding or telescoping stock;
• a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action
of the weapon;
• a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds;
• an ability to accept a detachable magazine.

• A semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable
magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics:
• an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside
of the pistol grip;
• a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender,
flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;
• shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles,
the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm
with the nontrigger hand without being burned;
• manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the
pistol is unloaded.
• A semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or
firearm.
• Any of the weapons, or functioning frames or receivers of such
weapons, or copies or duplicates of such weapons, in any caliber,
known as:
• Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs
(All Models);
• Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;
• Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
• Colt AR-15;
• Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
• SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
• Steyr AUG;
• INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22;
• revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the
Street Sweeper and Striker

• Assault weapons does not include:
• any rifle, shotgun or pistol that: is manually operated by
bolt, pump, lever or slide action; or has been rendered
permanently inoperable; or
• An antique firearm as defined under federal law
• A semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable
magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition;
• A semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five
rounds of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine;
• A rifle, shotgun or pistol, or a replica or a duplicate thereof,
specifically exempted from the federal assault weapon
ban list as such weapon was manufactured on October 1,
1993.
“Large capacity ammunition feeding device” means
a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device,
manufactured after September 13, 1994, that has a
capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted
to accept, more than ten rounds of ammunition. There
is an exception for an attached tubular device designed
to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber
rimfire ammunition.

CAUTION: Firearm laws are subject to frequent change and court interpretation. This summary is not intended as legal advice or
restatement of law. This summary does not include federal or local laws, ordinances or regulations. For any particular situation, a
licensed local attorney must be consulted for an accurate interpretation. YOU MUST ABIDE WITH ALL LAWS: STATE, FEDERAL
AND LOCAL.
This may be reproduced. It may not be reproduced for commercial purposes.

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I never saw the benefit of a collapsible stock on a civilian weapon. IMO they look ugly and throw-off the balance also. If you're clearing buildings or involved in CQB drills that's a different story - but for hunting and target shooting they make absolutely no sense.
It makes home defense easier. Plus, a full stock on a carbine would look really G@y.

IMHO, it makes the AR platform much more versatile, as its usable for competition, hunting, and general shooting, as well as home defense.

For a 20" the telescoping stock can look nice if you have a bad-ass outfitted 20" AR that would look good with a collapsible stock, but if you have a pretty regular looking 20" or 25" rifle, then I do agree to go with a full stock. Although it puts you even more at a disadvantage seeing as a rifle that long would not be good for home defense. Therefore limiting the range of use for your AR.

I personally like my AR to be used for any situation. With the way the economy is going, a civil war has the stage set. Obama becomes an opressor, and boom! you have the ingredients for a civil war II. I see us Americans as a bit more Civil though. So probably not. We'll just protest non violently and get no where, as usual. Oh, well, that's life....
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IMHO, I don't care for the collapsible buttstock at all, aside from getting in and out of a vehicle all day.
It doesn't provide an adequate cheek weld, this lessens your ability to get a shot on target quickly, accurately.
An A2 buttstock is tougher, if someone needs a butt to the head the A2 works much better, not that I have ever done that.

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Old 08-02-2009, 01:02 AM   #28
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It makes home defense easier. Plus, a full stock on a carbine would look really G@y.
So in your opinion the Marlin 9mm Carbine, the HiPoint 9mm and 40cal carbines, and the M1 look GAY (WTF does that mean BTW)

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IMHO, it makes the AR platform much more versatile, as its usable for competition, hunting, and general shooting, as well as home defense.
You really should be more concerned about killing all your neighbors instead of how "cool" your AR15 looks....seriously - you would shoot your AR15 IN YOUR HOUSE??? Have you ever shot an AR15? Do you know what "penetration" is? If you ever see collapsible stocks at any sanctioned competetive event, chances are the shooter is also more concerned about looks than competing...
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[QUOTE=RL357Mag;138153][QUOTE]
So in your opinion the Marlin 9mm Carbine, the HiPoint 9mm and 40cal carbines, and the M1 look GAY (WTF does that mean BTW)

He most likely knows, from personal experience what it means. If you know what I mean.

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Default My pre ban M1 Carbine

Wonder if this will pass muster in NY State.



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