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Old 03-26-2011, 07:35 PM   #21
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It will be fine for what I want and need it for. I just wanted to see what you guys thought about it. I was looking for a quaility entry level AR that was good right out of the box.
There are things you can do to help bring it up to speed.

Im kinda doing a little research for myself. Would you mind posting pics of the gas key staking and m4 cuts? Is the castle nut staked?

Hey Quentin, didnt Grant do an "upgrade" thread? I couldnt find it.
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There are things you can do to help bring it up to speed.

Im kinda doing a little research for myself. Would you mind posting pics of the gas key staking and m4 cuts? Is the castle nut staked?

Hey Quentin, didnt Grant do an "upgrade" thread? I couldnt find it.

I know this sounds dumb but I really don't know what you are asking.

Can you explain it to me. Sorry I am a true AR noob.
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There are things you can do to help bring it up to speed.

Im kinda doing a little research for myself. Would you mind posting pics of the gas key staking and m4 cuts? Is the castle nut staked?

Hey Quentin, didnt Grant do an "upgrade" thread? I couldnt find it.
I bet you're referring to when he became a BM dealer a while back... a very good upgrade on the cheap article...

A day in the life of a BM LE Dealer - M4Carbine.net Forums

@Blaine, this is an interesting read and you may want to compare your recent BM with what was sold when this thread was current. I compared my buddy's BM from 2008 and it had the deficiencies listed. But all this "Chart" recognition has forced many manufacturers to make upgrades today. I know ArmaLite has done so.

Don't stress too much about what you read here, M4C is geared to LEOs and soldiers who want to improve reliability to the max because it could mean their life. Most of us here will grab something other than an AR-15 when something goes bump in the night.
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Sometimes I get to wrapped up in the "you could have had this for the same price". Its just I dont have the finances to have a huge stable. When I purchase firearms I have to make it count for the long haul.

I imagine you'll have, Great Success (Borat).

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I bet you're referring to when he became a BM dealer a while back...

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@Blaine, this is an interesting read and you may want to compare your recent BM with what was sold when this thread was current. I compared my buddy's BM from 2008 and it had the deficiencies listed. But all this "Chart" recognition has forced many manufacturers to make upgrades today. I know ArmaLite has done so.

Don't stress too much about what you read here, M4C is geared to LEOs and soldiers who want to improve reliability to the max because it could mean their life. Most of us here will grab something other than an AR-15 when something goes bump in the night.
I will check it out, thanks. I keep this next to my bed if I have to protect my family.The AR would be good if SHTF though.

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Gorgeous shotgun Blaine. 18"?

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Yes sir.
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I paid $880.


Bushmaster M4/A3 Patrolman
16" M4 m203 cutout
1:9 twist 6 grooves and lands
30 round mag
A3 upper receiver with picatinny rail and removeable carry handle
aircraft aluminum upper and lower
Manganese phosphate coated
hard anodized mil-spec finish
6 position buttstock

Just as a comparison I'll drop in the specs of my recent build:

S&W/Daniel Defense build

Lower Receiver:
Smith&Wesson Model M&P-15 Stripped Lower $130
Stag Lower Parts Kit $65
BCM M4 Milspec Stock Kit/H-buffer $85
Lower Total $280

Upper Receiver: Brass Aluminum Forging square forge mark
Daniel Defense 5.56mm 16" Midlength 1:7 CHF LW profile $374
Daniel Defense M16 Bolt Carrier Group $124
Daniel Defense Charging Handle $19
Magpul MOE Midlength Handguards $34
Upper Total $551 Upper/Lower Total $831

Sights:
Daniel Defense A2/F-marked FSB (included above)
Colt A4 Cut Carry Handle (Anchor Harvey) $40
Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 1x25mm Red Dot Sight $80
UTG RS10S3 1x1.6" Rail Riser Mount $10
Sights Total $130 Running Total $961

Miscellaneous:
S&W M&P15 MagPul PMAG 30rd Magazine $10
CQB Solutions 3-Point Tactical Sling $10 (used)
Misc. Total $20 Running Total $981

If you subtract the RDS and mount ($90) the basic rifle came in around $890 and if you subtract the MOE handguards for cheap midlength ones I already had it would be $855. If I hadn't upgraded the standard buffer to an H buffer it's down to $840.

Not saying I'm right or you're right, Blaine. Just an illustration what you can do if you choose your parts and build.

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Dan Wesson right
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Just as a comparison I'll drop in the specs of my recent build:

S&W/Daniel Defense build

Lower Receiver:
Smith&Wesson Model M&P-15 Stripped Lower $130
Stag Lower Parts Kit $65
BCM M4 Milspec Stock Kit/H-buffer $85
Lower Total $280

Upper Receiver: Brass Aluminum Forging square forge mark
Daniel Defense 5.56mm 16" Midlength 1:7 CHF LW profile $374
Daniel Defense M16 Bolt Carrier Group $124
Daniel Defense Charging Handle $19
Magpul MOE Midlength Handguards $34
Upper Total $551 Upper/Lower Total $831

Sights:
Daniel Defense A2/F-marked FSB (included above)
Colt A4 Cut Carry Handle (Anchor Harvey) $40
Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 1x25mm Red Dot Sight $80
UTG RS10S3 1x1.6" Rail Riser Mount $10
Sights Total $130 Running Total $961

Miscellaneous:
S&W M&P15 MagPul PMAG 30rd Magazine $10
CQB Solutions 3-Point Tactical Sling $10 (used)
Misc. Total $20 Running Total $981

If you subtract the RDS and mount ($90) the basic rifle came in around $890 and if you subtract the MOE handguards for cheap midlength ones I already had it would be $855. If I hadn't upgraded the standard buffer to an H buffer it's down to $840.

Not saying I'm right or you're right, Blaine. Just an illustration what you can do if you choose your parts and build.

Daniel Defense/S&W left


Dan Wesson right
That is a great looking rifle.
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Gorgeous shotgun Blaine. 18"?
Here is my truck gun.

Model 97 12 ga- 20"

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