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Old 04-14-2013, 11:55 PM   #21
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Agreed that 3k is too much though.

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......honestly I have close to 3k on a couple of my builds, when alls said and done. Including optics and accessories T_T.

Hey Aimpoints ain't cheap.....

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PSA? ^ really? I feel like there's plenty of other manufactures that sell better quality products for very little more money.
Yes , PSA. Tell me whats wrong with a FN made hammer forged cl barrel or what makes anything else a better barrel for a gun / or a gun your going to run hard ? A mil spec forged alum lower is just that . There all the same just a different roll mark .
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Old 04-15-2013, 01:01 AM   #24
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Another important question. What's your budget? This will help narrow down your options. I am building a 16" setup right now. It's a no expenses spared rifle that I am building to run hard. I anticipate about that I'll have well over $3000 into my build when it's all said and done.
$3K? I always build.. most i build with the best parts.. not the very very best of course.. costed me $2000. Not included optics though.
So with $3000 you must to have the very Best parts and at least a decent optic.
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$3K? I always build.. most i build with the best parts.. not the very very best of course.. costed me $2000. Not included optics though.
Time I throw an optic, and a few accessories on there $3000 is not unrealistic. Currently at the moment I have spent $300 for my Noveske stripped lower, $85 for my CMMG lpk, $180 for my Vltor I mod, That's $565 and I haven't even got into the upper receiver.

Could I build one cheaper? Hell yes I could! This is my first complete build, I vowed to spare no expense on this rifle. It's going to be special compared to all of my others. I am sure that dome of you understand that.

I understand everyone's needs and budget are different. However, I am not going rec commend the guy a $500 barrel if he is trying spend as least as possible, and just wants a plinker....
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Yes , PSA. Tell me whats wrong with a FN made hammer forged cl barrel or what makes anything else a better barrel for a gun / or a gun your going to run hard ? A mil spec forged alum lower is just that . There all the same just a different roll mark .
Fill me in Im all ears
I agree, PSA gives you quite a lot for the money. I don't have any $3000 ARs but do have PSA, BCM and Daniel Defense. It's amazing what $300-400 less gives you if you choose PSA. I don't see how you're going to get PSA quality elsewhere for the same price. I'd drop a $700 Aimpoint on a $700 PSA with confidence.
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Is Dpms good? Can get a whole kit minus the lower for about $500-600

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We all have different definitions of run hard, When I think run hard , Im talking 1000-1500 rds a day , the gun getting banged around doing CQ drills and going thru the motions I put it thru . Personally the gun I am taking to this type of " RUN HARD class " will have a CLHF barrel with FSB , M4 hand guards, M4 stock or MOE stock , Hogue grip , Reworked Mil Spec single stage trigger , Troy BUIS , and a Aimpoint M4 and a 2 point sling , . This is a solid build that can be ran hard, take abuse I intend on giving it and I TRUST to make it all day without any issues . $200+ hand guards and $200 3# triggers are great and I own many of them , but not needed to " RUN HARD" and put it thru the paces as I would is what I use above . Now saying that I'm using a 11.5" barrel not a 16" but that's besides the point , a 16" barrel in that configuration would work just fine . Others describe "RUN HARD" as going to the range and putting 500 rds down range over the weekend from a bench . Its all how you look at how you intend on "running hard" . A good trustworthy rifle for running hard doesnt need to cost $3000 . Can it yes without a doubt , but Im not going to take one of my best looking rifles out and beat the sh!t out of it at a course weekend after weekend when I have guns built for that purpose . Just one more reason why most of us arent happy with just one black rifle

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Yes , PSA. Tell me whats wrong with a FN made hammer forged cl barrel or what makes anything else a better barrel for a gun / or a gun your going to run hard ? A mil spec forged alum lower is just that . There all the same just a different roll mark .
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Admittedly I haven't checked their website recently. The last time I was looking for lowers and uppers they were selling polymer.
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Admittedly I haven't checked their website recently. The last time I was looking for lowers and uppers they were selling polymer.
Most of their stuff is back in stock , well was over the weekend , lowers seem to hit the page every couple days along with BCGs and alot of their uppers are back in stock . Just glad to start seeing stuff coming back in stock most every where . Its been a long 4 months of all this BS. Now its time for the ammo prices to drop and get back on the shelves ,
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