[W. C. Quantrill]

That sounds like a good deal. I bought mine from a local cop that had run about 100 rounds through it. I got the rifle, mags, 400 rounds of Federal ammo, and a Bushnell scope with Rock River Arms mount for $700. He had mounted the scope backwards and thought that it was defective. He had the scope hanging out about 3 inches behind the receiver, and couldnt get his head down to see through it, and when he did, he couldnt see anything. Funny how 5 minutes and an allen wrench changed all that.

[JTJ]

I kept mine simple. It has never malfunctioned.

[billt]

Originally Posted by purehavoc

Bill tell me about the oracle ? I found a new one for sale local and was interested because it comes with 4 mags and 400 rds of federal brass ammo for $700 that all I know I havent seen it yet . I was thinking about buying to keep the ammo and unloading the rest of it ?

Havoc, that is a smokin' deal! I would not hesatate to jump on it! The Oracle is one of DPMS's most popular models. They function well and have most all of the features desired in an AR-15 rifle. Here are some specs on it.

http://www.dpmsinc.com/556-ORACLE_ep_135-1.html

The barrel is 4140 Chrome Moly with a 1 in 9" twist, which is ideal for most .223 / 5.56 MM ammunition. I was talking to one of the guys at Cabela's the other day, and he told me they sell more DPMS Oracle models than any other AR-15. They've yet to get one back for any reason or problem. Considering the amount of firearms they sell, that is saying something. I'm considering one of their Varmint heavy barrel models as my next AR. From what I see and hear, the most bashing of these rifles comes from people who don't own them. The ones who do seem to be very satisfied with them.

[Tenderribbs]

Man that sounds like a deal 4 mags and 400 rds for 700 I paid almost seven for mine striped of course , yea you could make some $ on that deal as far as dependability I have has 0 FTF or FTE it it has a dust guard and forward assist . I think that's a heck of a deal

[Quentin]

Originally Posted by purehavoc

Bill tell me about the oracle ? I found a new one for sale local and was interested because it comes with 4 mags and 400 rds of federal brass ammo for $700 that all I know I havent seen it yet . I was thinking about buying to keep the ammo and unloading the rest of it ?

Nice deal, you could break even selling all but the ammo. Early this year I got a like new G27 with night sights, three mags, holster and 300 rounds for $500 cash. Kinda the same reasoning as you but now all the ammo's shot up and I'm keeping the Glock!

[purehavoc]

Hmmm , for some reason I thought I had read they took a commercial buffer tube any one know what it really takes ?

[Kodeman]

Tenderribbs, what does that bad boy weigh?

[Quentin]

Originally Posted by purehavoc

Hmmm , for some reason I thought I had read they took a commercial buffer tube any one know what it really takes ?

New Oracle, yeah I would expect commercial diameter.

[JonM]

my wife's dpms came with a commercial tube its got a vltor milspec now. receivers with commercial tubes can swap tubes for a milspec with no difficulties. the thread size is the same. the only difference is the size of the tube itself

[billt]

Originally Posted by purehavoc

Hmmm , for some reason I thought I had read they took a commercial buffer tube any one know what it really takes ?

The DPMS Oracle, as well as their other models all take a Commercial buffer tube. Most any stock option worth having comes in both Commercial and Mil-Spec buffer tube sizes. You can check to make absolutely sure before ordering any stock. Commercial tubes are sized 1.170" in diameter, while the Mil-Spec buffer tubes are smaller at 1.140" in diameter.

Another way to check is the Commercial buffer tubes have the back surface cut at an angle, while the Mil-Spec buffer tubes are cut at a square 90 degree angle to the tube itself. When I replaced my rear stocks my Colts took Mil-Spec, while most everything else took Commercial sized rear stock sets.