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Old 03-19-2012, 01:22 AM   #21
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agenttikki I guess if you want more info you could hunt it up too.
I guess. Is this a roundabout request for more info? Or just a friendly nudge? Aw gawd your not goading me are you??!?!? >.<
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Nothing wrong with the 1911. I've owned half dozen or so. Still have one. A Clark built bullesye target gun.

But there's no way in hell I'll ever show any respect for Jeffie Cooper, because I don't have any. IMHO, the man wasn't just a dinosaur, but a racist, sexist and arrogant bigot as well.
OJ simpson is a murdering piece of garbage. Doesn't take away the fact he was one of the greatest FB players of all time.

Regardless of ones view of Cooper, his contributions are undeniable.
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agenttikki Not meee!!

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One nice thing about the First Amendment Ben, you're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine.
And BTW, I do get the senior discount. I'm 68 years old.
And that is one thing I wholeheartedly agree with you on, Locutus. We can both have disagreeing opinions and not turn into jerks over.
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Quentin,

Nothing wrong with the 1911. I've owned half dozen or so. Still have one. A Clark built bullesye target gun.

But there's no way in hell I'll ever show any respect for Jeffie Cooper, because I don't have any. IMHO, the man wasn't just a dinosaur, but a racist, sexist and arrogant bigot as well.
Jeff Cooper lived in a different time so it's difficult to judge him in today's politically correct, hypocritical context. You could apply those same labels to many great leaders in our past. The Colonel's contributions to today's firearms knowledgebase makes him a great man in my view. Wha'd he do, tweak your nose when you acted up in class at Gunsite?
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But there's no way in hell I'll ever show any respect for Jeffie Cooper, because I don't have any. IMHO, the man wasn't just a dinosaur, but a racist, sexist and arrogant bigot as well.
And what's your point?

That's a Humble Opinion? Insolent comes to mind, or contemptuous but not humble.
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Jeff Cooper lived in a different time so it's difficult to judge him in today's politically correct, hypocritical context. You could apply those same labels to many great leaders in our past. The Colonel's contributions to today's firearms knowledgebase makes him a great man in my view. Wha'd he do, tweak your nose when you acted up in class at Gunsite?
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Jeff Cooper lived in a different time so it's difficult to judge him in today's politically correct, hypocritical context. You could apply those same labels to many great leaders in our past. The Colonel's contributions to today's firearms knowledgebase makes him a great man in my view. Wha'd he do, tweak your nose when you acted up in class at Gunsite?
He didn't do anything to me. I just resented the specious garbage he wrote in the magazines. What an incredibly arrogant and self righteous "know-it-all."
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His writing got me to buy a 1911 36 years ago. Colt Series '70. To this day it was excellent advice!

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An interesting update:

At the bequest of the Hardluk1 (:P), I have invested countless hours of exhaustive, in-depth, scintillating, titillating, eye-melting online research, I'd like to first start off by saying that I'm planning a precision build so all my questions and research revolves around precision. I have concluded that FNC for precision builds is good. Better that chroming. But you guys already knew that......

What you didn't know is there's a catch (isn't there always). Talking to a couple of barrel makers, and they recommend that you FNC your barrel AFTER break in. One recommended 60-100 rounds, the other recommended that you wait until you start getting the groups you like. This all makes perfect sense to me.

The reason is that if you take a fresh barrel, you need to break it in to remove any burrs or nicks and/or smooth them out. If you don't, FNC will make harden those imperfections and they will last alot longer, making the break in process a lot longer. One other solution is to have the bore lapped first. (but where's the fun in that?)

If you are looking for a combat / plinking type build, this fascinating tidbit prolly won't interest you much. But keep in mind, this also means that if you take a crappy 4 moa barrel and FNC it, it'll be crappy for possibly forever, kuz it'll take 6000+ rounds to break it in to a 2 moa gun.

As for the whole which is better melonite or chrome? I still think the more important question is which is a better barrel? Then ask it it comes melonited or chromed.

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