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Old 11-27-2012, 06:32 PM   #41
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No need to be annoyed, I'm asking things that may sound dumb to someone like your self that knows better then me, I'm looking to people like your self to help so I'm not so lost. I never came on here saying I'm the AR-15 king I said I don't know much at all
I'm not even close to the most knowledgeable here on the AR platform. I do know a fair amount after owning a few and carrying the M16 in Vietnam, but again not even close to the most knowledgeable. And it's not about your being new to and learning the platform though I'm glad you're here doing just that. God knows we need all the savvy gunowning citizens we can recruit these days!

All I'm saying is most people here take the time to be clear in their writing and I for one expect the same courtesy from others, especially new people wanting to learn. What's the big deal, it doesn't take that much extra time.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:39 PM   #42
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I'll answer the question in car terms. A standard AR is the same as a standard corvette with an automatic transmission, a high end piston AR is equal to a vette with the magnetic ride control. A top tier AR is equal to a Z51 with the brembo brake package. Both the latter are fantastic but the old fashion tried and true has now been tuned almost to the point of perfection.

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Old 11-27-2012, 06:59 PM   #43
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I'll answer the question in car terms. A standard AR is the same as a standard corvette with an automatic transmission, a high end piston AR is equal to a vette with the magnetic ride control. A top tier AR is equal to a Z51 with the brembo brake package. Both the latter are fantastic but the old fashion tried and true has now been tuned almost to the point of perfection.
Actually a standard milspec AR is more like a good jeep. Cheap, tough and maneuverable. Compared to the cars you mentioned, which one after a weekend of off road beating would you expect to perform as advertised!
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Jeez you are all wrong.


The AK is more like a old bare bones jeep. The AR is a luxury SUV. Way more comfortable, and pretty and just as ready for some fun in the mud!

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Can't argue with that, AT! I knew when I said off road that would get a rise out of an AK zombie!

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The only thing I can add to what already has been said here is: except for the short barrel rifle a piston doesn't add much to the AR platform unless you like white glove inspections.

Now for the harsh environment of SBR function there are advantages to the AR piston plus the extra weight isn't as much a factor with the light, maneuverable barrel. For 14.5" and longer barrels, DI is hard to beat and is what the AR was designed to use.

Your turn, what is it about DI ARs that you don't like, strix?
Q I wouldnt even use one for a SBR , if its built right a DI works fine even with a barrel as short at 7.5" I have run everything from good match grade ammo to cheap crap, wolf and Tula thru my 7.5" SBR and it runs everything fine . Fine tuning the SBR to run is the most important thing. The piston seems like a crutch to get you past a problem on a DI SBR
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Q I wouldnt even use one for a SBR , if its built right a DI works fine even with a barrel as short at 7.5" I have run everything from good match grade ammo to cheap crap, wolf and Tula thru my 7.5" SBR and it runs everything fine . Fine tuning the SBR to run is the most important thing. The piston seems like a crutch to get you past a problem on a DI SBR
Very true, purehavoc. I was just thinking a gas regulator might help quick tune an SBR but there's no doubt the are many shortie DIs out there that run right. Quality components make all the difference and prove that DI is here to stay. I do not foresee a piston AR in my future (unless you want to call the BCG a piston).
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