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Old 11-17-2013, 01:10 PM   #11
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Keeping the thread alive, got a minor update.


After quite a bit of research, I've found that John Thomas over at Retroarmsworks.com is the go to guy for work on these. I'm sending it out to him when funds permit to have the FSB flash removed, reparked and pinned and also all the steel parts parked in a original grayish color.
Nice! I always liked the look of the original m16s. Can't wait to see the final result.
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Thanks! That's an awesome chart! Where did you get it? I pasted that into a note for future reference. According to that, best for my barrel starts at 69 grain, which is what I'm having made up.

And I also like the above photo of the M16-A1 upper. I've always liked that version. If anyone has a Colt carrying handle to sell, contact me. My Le6920 didn't come with one, and I think it adds the look I like.
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Thanks! That's an awesome chart! Where did you get it? I pasted that into a note for future reference. According to that, best for my barrel starts at 69 grain, which is what I'm having made up.

And I also like the above photo of the M16-A1 upper. I've always liked that version. If anyone has a Colt carrying handle to sell, contact me. My Le6920 didn't come with one, and I think it adds the look I like.
No problem.

I found it somewhere on this forum in a thread full of useful info for ARs. I can't find that thread again for some reason though.
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Original Colt M16a1 parts, I threw the idea of using all new parts around but just couldn't pass on owning the real deal and I wanted it to be historically accurate, I'm going to use a quality LPK and bcg to insure she runs right.
Can this use a modern BCG, or will it require one of those SP1 carriers?

I only ask because I'm unsure, and I believe there can be fit issues in some cases. Just throwing that out there in case it's a potential sticking point...but it sounds like you know what you're doing.
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Can this use a modern BCG, or will it require one of those SP1 carriers?

I only ask because I'm unsure, and I believe there can be fit issues in some cases. Just throwing that out there in case it's a potential sticking point...but it sounds like you know what you're doing.
The only fit issues I'm aware of are the upper to lower, in rare cases it may require a bit of fitting. I've tried my upper on a DPMS lower and it fit well, I also tried it on Dads Bushmaster and it had a nice snug fit.

Any carrier will work, (I've tested a Daniel Defense and Bushmaster) the only ones with a difference between any of the parts would be the original prototypes and offshoots, that and some civilian Colts have oversized trigger pins.
You could build one of these with anything from Stag and DPMS internals to Daniel Defense and Noveske depending on what quality you were going for.

Really you could use any barrel you wanted also as long as you had it reprofiled to use a .625 FSB.


There is a ton of info on different models specs at http://retroblackrifle.com/, nothing too technical though.
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Getting closer, got some more of my parts in.

Still waiting on some small bits from Sarco.

Current items are as follows.

DPMS buffer, tube and spring. Yeah it's DPMS, it's also a part that's hard to mess up

Norelles Moly-resin. Exact match to original color

Lauer weaponry manganese parkerizing solution.

Original Colt M16A1 upper w/ FA and rear sight.

Colt port door assembly

PSA lower parts kit, refinished to an original gray color with naval jelly. With the right technique naval jelly will turn black parkerizing gray, but it takes some care as it can turn out splotchy.

PSA charging handle

PSA premium HPT/MPI bolt carrier group

DPMS gas tube

McKay enterprises M16A1 1/7 barrel

original Colt barrel nut assembly with slip ring.

Colt handguard cap

Colt M16A1 front sight base.

I may throw up a more informational and formal build thread when I'm finished to make it easier to follow.
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Very nice Gratz
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Got bored and since it's my last day off for awhile, I thought I'd do some refinishing. I airbrushed my upper with Norelles grayish black flat. Turned out ok, hopefully some of the sheen dulls down with time.

The parkerizing on the other hand turned out awesome, it was my first time doing it but it was extremely easy to do.

Still debating on whether or not to re-park the barrel.

Baby steps but I'm getting there.
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Nice. Brings back some memories. I work on a bunch of those when I was in the Army.
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Another teaser just because I'm bored


Yeah I know the lower is totally wrong but I just wanted to see how the refinished upper looks on a black A2 lower since it will live on one until I get an A1 spec lower from NoDak.

I've got a line on a PSA lower for $70, hoping that works out.

Still gotta get that FSB pinned, just keep putting it off.
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