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Old 06-19-2010, 06:11 AM   #111
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I'm feeling out in the weeds again. If flip-up sights are a great way to go, then one would need a 2-rail gas block, right? That way a flip-up front sight could mount to it.

That would mean I'll have to keep looking for an appropriate flattop with 2-rail gas block or build the upper from parts.
Not necessarily. Go this route:



But Addax came up with an even better solution over on another forum using a flip up sight gas block that doesn't require any modification at all to the DD rail system to work. I would link to it, but it's bad form to publicly post links to other forums like that so I will answer your PM requesting the link if you want it.

Edit: I should add, Addax's solution is way cooler IMO. Had I known about the Vltor VST 1C gas block with flip sight when I did my build, I would have gone that route instead I think.
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A full-length 4-rail hand guard is sure to go over my budget. To stay below $900, I'm going to need to keep the upper at about $400.

JD, I found this one from Del-Ton with a flat top and a Yankee Hill flip-up front sight. It is not M-4, but it doesn't state the twist, so I'm assuming 1:9. Should I keep looking for 1:8 with these specs, though, since I'm planning on using 55gr to 75gr rounds?

Del-Ton 16" Mid-Length Barrel Assembly with YHM Flip Up Front Sight Gas Block

I'm having a hard time finding an upper with the front sight the way I want it at this price. But with this front sight, I could pair it with a YHM flip-up rear sight for about $95.

With your suggestions about a simplified lower parts kit, an upper w/o a tricked out carrier bolt group, and the magazines (I can buy 3 steel vs. 2 polymer), I have brought this build down to:

$886

I'm getting more and more excited to start this build. I think my next step is going down to my shop to figure out the process for getting a stripped lower. And then the rest is just UPS to my door. What a great country!

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WHAT??? 95 bucks for a YHM rear flip up??? That's insane! Who's pricing it like that?

79.99 at CTD

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WHAT??? 95 bucks for a YHM rear flip up??? That's insane! Who's pricing it like that?

79.99 at CTD
Oh, wow, my bad. I looked at--ready for this?--the manufacturer's site. That's the great thing about capitalism. Better prices just a click away! Thanks for looking, moshpit! Now we're down to $870!

Keep it going if anyone notices something else to make this a bit cheaper. I need all the $$ I can for ammo.
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Oh, wow, my bad. I looked at--ready for this?--the manufacturer's site. That's the great thing about capitalism. Better prices just a click away! Thanks for looking, moshpit! Now we're down to $870!

Keep it going if anyone notices something else to make this a bit cheaper. I need all the $$ I can for ammo.
Well, the manufacturer is honestly the WORST place to look to buy stuff for firearms. Both YHM and Daniel Defense are NOTORIOUS for only offering items at MSRP on their own site's, while you can go over to CTD or Midway oftentimes and find it WAY cheaper! For example, the Daniel Defense Omega X 12.0 FSP rail I used in the picture I posted above is a 340 dollar rail system at Daniel Defense's own web site and most retail sites. But Midway has it for 199.99 on sale right now and DID have it all the way down to 179.99 for a short time (I bought mine then).

Shopping around a bit really pays off with firearms parts. Far more so then it does with PC parts, the industry I'm most familiar with.
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Chris - Looks like you have been getting some great information from mosh and pagj17. Thanks for stepping in guys! ^5

Del Ton is a reliable company that has sold a lot of units to members here. The upper that you have link is a good enough one, but there is always room for improvement.

Since this is your first gun, you should concentrate on getting one put together and learning how it works. From there, as money allows, you can make subtle changes to the weapon to improve it's function.

There is a thread here from my young padwan Junho. He started the exact same way you have. By doing some reading and as806king some questions. As you can see, he soon became quite the expert in his own weapon and was able to research and make changes to his first weapon. By the time he was finished, he had quite a hell of a weapon system. Check this out.

http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f20/its-finally-finished-my-first-ar-6910/

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I'd have to agree with Dillinger's point about starting off as basic as possible and building up from there. That's what I did as well and it really payed off well. A complete basic build can be brought down to the 600-650 dollar range fairly easily.

Just using the upper you linked to for $425, and stick this complete lower on it for 249.99:
SPIKES TACTICAL : Complete AR-15 Lower Receiver w/Buttstock (100-004-686)
I can personally vouch that this is a NICE lower receiver, in fact far nicer then many more expensive ones.

Complete rifle for 675 right there. Add the 80 dollar rear BUIS needed, $755 total before tax and transfers.

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Dillinger,
I'm doing all my research for my next* build, and I would like some advice.

I have the OLY arms rail system, 12.5 inch length, but I like the feel of the Mag Pul CTR stock, and maybe one of those ACE stocks

Problem being that they require a Carbine length buffer tube.
I'm looking at running an H/H2 buffer in any which way, but will any length system(rifle, middy, carbine) run a carbine length Action spring/ Buffer tube?
This rifle's gonna be "top list" in the way of it's everything I want,
and might end up as two seperate rifles But I need to finish research before I start the build

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Just got my stripped lower today! It is a Surplus Ammo & Arms out of Lakewood, WA. I got it at my local shop for $80 plus a $10 state fee. It has picture icons instead of "Safe" and "Fire" but it is in perfect shape.

I'm about to start buying all the other parts. I'd like to have everything but ammo before I get started.

You suggested a particular teflon-coated magazine from SportsmansGuide, but I don't think the $30 joining fee will be worth it. Do you have other suggestions for mags instead of the Magpul Pmag? Maybe something at Midway?

Another question. What will I need as far as lubrication? My only experience is handguns, which only need a few drops of oil on the rails when you clean it. What should I buy for the build?

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A lot of guys love Slip2000, I haven't tried it. I've very old school and not very flexible about lube, I'm still stuck in the 1980's with Breakfree CLP as my main cleaning and lube choice. Times have left me in the dust though, there's some good stuff people are using out there.

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