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MikeJK 04-28-2012 09:36 PM

The Importance of Staking
 
Just got back from a 1 day carbine course. It was a lot of fun and a great learning experience/ motivator.

First thing this morning the instructor had us confirm zero. When I went back to my gear to top off my mags my receiver extension rotated as I sat the rifle down. I looked closer and noticed the castle nut was trying to back off. Good thing I keep an AR multi tool in the range bag.

My day was almost ruined. It would have been embarrassing as hell. Thankfully it was caught before backing off to far sending springs and detents went flying.

Moral of the story, STAKE.

Oh yeah, take a damn class. You'll learn a lot about yourself and your gear.

Duck4Glocks 04-28-2012 10:11 PM

How much did the class run yah.

MikeJK 04-28-2012 10:38 PM

$65 then maybe $100 in ammo. Not bad for a day of shooting and instruction. Don't forget the networking value.

BenLuby 04-28-2012 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeJK (Post 784900)
$65 then maybe $100 in ammo. Not bad for a day of shooting and instruction. Don't forget the networking value.

Must finish getting in shape so I can run and gun...

Duck4Glocks 04-28-2012 10:58 PM

I'm going to try and find someone in my area who does it. I would love to do something like that.

MikeJK 04-29-2012 12:42 AM

Do it, it is a great experience. Just make sure your gear is straight. One kid kept having issues and it was frustrating him.

Fixer 04-29-2012 12:54 AM

Staking is only needed when you dont have the time to properly inspect and maintain your firearm...as in Military or remote locations where tools become burdensome.

Every firearm will loosen up with use. Its up to the user to maintain that firearm. The onbly time I staked was when I was in the military. Now that I am a civy, I just maintain my weapons as I needed. Loctite + elbow power will keep any Castle Nut solid throughout a few thousand rounds. Proper Torque is all that is needed on the Gas Key Bolts. I have used the same BCG without staking for over 10,000 rounds. I check it every time I go into a big cleaning, about 2,000 rounds or so.

YMMV Every part not held by a pin and even those can come loose.

MikeJK 04-29-2012 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BenLuby

Must finish getting in shape so I can run and gun...

I've always been athletic but am in the worst shape of my life. There were a couple large/ slow guys. The instructor stopped the class at one point to remind people to train like they'd fight. After a couple F-bombs and a few move w/ a purpose glares everyone was tracking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fixer
Staking is only needed when you dont have the time to properly inspect and maintain your firearm...as in Military or remote locations where tools become burdensome.

Every firearm will loosen up with use. Its up to the user to maintain that firearm. The onbly time I staked was when I was in the military. Now that I am a civy, I just maintain my weapons as I needed. Loctite + elbow power will keep any Castle Nut solid throughout a few thousand rounds. Proper Torque is all that is needed on the Gas Key Bolts. I have used the same BCG without staking for over 10,000 rounds. I check it every time I go into a big cleaning, about 2,000 rounds or so.

YMMV Every part not held by a pin and even those can come loose.

I'd rather have a stacked nut then carry a wrench. As in my case it was good when I left but after a few rounds worked it's way loose at the worst moment. It could come loose your in 10 rounds or 3k you never know. Doing it right is the better path. Solid for good is better than solid for a while. Less worry less exertion.

BenLuby 04-29-2012 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeJK (Post 785089)
I've always been athletic but am in the worst shape of my life. There were a couple large/ slow guys. The instructor stopped the class at one point to remind people to train like they'd fight. After a couple F-bombs and a few move w/ a purpose glares everyone was tracking.


My idea of athletic, over the last few years, is getting up from my desk to get a cup of coffee and not having it brought to me. I've turned into a pencil pusher who's built like a damned Who from Whoville and don't know when the fat snuck up on me.

MikeJK 04-29-2012 03:00 AM

LOL. I went from a 170 lb. construction worker working 60 hrs. a week and training MMA religiously to being a 197 lb. F/T student who spends most of his time behind a laptop and taking notes. It's a shock to they system when you go from one to the other but your caloric intake remains the same. Just get out and do it.


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