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12-07-2012, 04:57 PM
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Sweet. Looks like ammo run when I get home!
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Your ETA should be 12/27-12/29 at the latest.
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12-07-2012, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AgentTikki
Your ETA should be 12/27-12/29 at the latest.
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Good deal. Thank you.
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Oh dern....
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And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
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12-07-2012, 05:10 PM
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Thx guys for squeezing me into this  .
Btw, thx X and CONGRATS on your newborn baby boy. I wish him and your wife heal faster.  . My 2nd baby due on next june, eagerly to know if it will be boy again or girl.
Last edited by okdonk; 12-07-2012 at 05:23 PM.
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12-09-2012, 04:12 PM
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T'was a sad day at the range.
Yesterday I had the opportunity to goto the range with a friend to help sight in and break in my friend's new precision upper and spanking new Vortex scope (he's graduating from a Primary Arms Chinese scope and was understandibly super excited)
So I took the opportunity to break in the Black Rain Ordinance Bolt Carrier Group (BB).
Slapped in the BB into my RUC lower (his rifle lower isn't finished yet) with Carbine receiver extention, Carbine weight buffer, standard carbine milspec spring, (with about 4k rounds through it) unlubed and factory fresh, with a new 20" ARP heavy contour melonited barrel with rifle gas. Winchester .223 55gr fmj.
Squeeze.....click. No boom. Pulled the CH, ejected the round. Light primer strike? Light primer strike. I was thinking "damn I knew that firing pin looks a ittle short". Rechambered it, and it shot but didn't cycle.
Not a good start.
2nd round, didn't fire either. 2 in a row? Bad mojo. I tried once more and still didn't go bang. Pulled the CH and it was stuck. had to really work that CH to eject that round. once it was out, I thought maybe it was the rifle. I pulled the bcg and put in my BCM bcg and finished off the magazine with no issues.
I then took apart the BB and dropped a little oil into the firing pin channel, and on the gas rings and oiled up the bolt. Lightly oiled the outside of the bcg and tried again.
Fired 2 trouble free mags (10 rounds each, gd I <3 Kali) and had a FTE. From that point on, we experienced numerous FTFire FTFeed, FTE, and double feeds. Approx 1 every couple rounds. I stopped keeping track after 10. There was no point. After the first couple mags, I knew we had a lemon.
We tried it with the carbine upper. Same issues. We tried it with a PSA standard M4 profile barrel, carbine buffer, carbine ext and spring, same issues.
All in all, 12 magazines, 120 rounds. Probably over 20 failures.
When we swapped in our orginal BCGs, issues stopped.
When I got home last night, I manually loaded up some mags and manually cycled some the rounds. I would get intermittent issues. In 4 magazines (40 rounds) I got 4 failures to eject/double feeds (round still in the chamber). One magazine fed perfectly with no issues.
I've already contacted X about the issues and I'm gonna try and get another unit for us test out. Lemons do sometimes slip through the cracks. My friend runs a Spikes Ni-Bor in his carbine, sans lube and has no issues with it with about 1k rounds through it.
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Last edited by AgentTikki; 12-09-2012 at 06:36 PM.
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12-09-2012, 04:21 PM
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Pulled the BB apart last night, and wiped it down.
Outer Carrier cleaned up easy enough, as did the firing pin. There's a minute amount of carbon buildup on the tail end of the bolt, by where the firing pin enters. Its not coming off without a bit of scraping or solvent. Wiping it down doesn't clean it all off. Personally not too impressed with the "easy to clean" aspect. It seems like its gonna take about the same effort as my chromed BCG, but it is easier than my phosphated bcgs.
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12-09-2012, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AgentTikki
Pulled the BB apart last night, and wiped it down.
Outer Carrier cleaned up easy enough, as did the firing pin. There's a minute amount of carbon buildup on the tail end of the bolt, by where the firing pin enters. Its not coming off without a bit of scraping or solvent. Wiping it down doesn't clean it all off. Personally not too impressed with the "easy to clean" aspect. It seems like its gonna take about the same effort as my chromed BCG, but it is easier than my phosphated bcgs.
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Well that didn't start off so swell  . Let's hope the next one does better
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12-09-2012, 05:12 PM
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Lets just hope that one is a lemon.
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12-09-2012, 06:36 PM
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Thanks for the detailed report, Tikki. A shame there are problems. We know this does happen with any brand and most BR BCGs should work fine. I wonder if the initial buyer of this unit also had problems? Maybe he couldn't articulate his issues like you did.
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12-09-2012, 06:45 PM
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Hrm it was pretty clean when I got it. didn't look like it was fired. The face of the bolt was very clean and the firing pin looked clean too. Its not so very clean right now.......
We ran a BCM, Rainer Arms and PSA phosphate bcg yesterday with no issues.
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12-09-2012, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AgentTikki
Hrm it was pretty clean when I got it. didn't look like it was fired. The face of the bolt was very clean and the firing pin looked clean too. Its not so very clean right now.......
We ran a BCM, Rainer Arms and PSA phosphate bcg yesterday with no issues.
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ive got an ohsht spare bcm BCG in the shipping bag and its plainly visible on the bolt face that its had a few rounds fired for testing. im kinda surprised that they dont test fire before shipping
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