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Old 06-15-2012, 01:56 PM   #1
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I stopped by the LGS looking for a heavy buffer for my Rock River. When I told the employee I was looking for 1 to smooth out the recoil I was told all I needed was a different spring. He then told me that the heavy buffers were for rifles not carbines. All this while holding a carbine heavy buffer. I may be new to ARs but I do know the differece between carbine and rifle buffers. This is the same guy who once told me not to buy ammo from Walmart due to expiring primers. I did not buy the buffer from him, wanted as much for an unknown buffer as a Spikes H2. On the plus side he did GIVE me a carbine length spring so now I have an extra. I think I've made my last trip to that store!

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Old 06-15-2012, 02:03 PM   #2
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http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR15-Stocks-Grips-Handguards-s/6.htm

scroll down all the different weight buffers currently in stock. they got lightspeed shipping
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The guy at your LGS is mistaken, ignorant, stupid, and idiot or all of the above. If you find you have to go to that gun store again......AVOID THAT DUMB A**.

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Plenty of other stores here in CO. That one is on my list to avoid. If they hired the guy I talked to the rest of them may be just as bad. He even offered to "tweek" my AR if I brought it in!

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this is all too common in gun stores i'm afraid. in texas, most folks are polite and helpful in retail stores. gun stores are sadly, almost always, an exception to that rule .

i have a local GS that has very good prices due to incredible volume. but the last thing i will ever do there again is ask for help or suggestions. 50% of the employees are snide, dismissive, and Know-it-alls. a very poor reflection on shooting sports imo.

thankfully, living in the information age, you really don't need to speak to these guys at all. i just research on my own & tell them what i want.

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check these out.

www.heavybuffers.com

they are little expensive but man. im running both the rifle, and carbine lengths in my wifes and my rifles. they give reduced recoil, and a louder, boomier report. in my case these buffers have also greatly reduced my sproing noise..

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they are little expensive but man. im running both the rifle, and carbine lengths in my wifes and my rifles. they give reduced recoil, and a louder, boomier report. in my case these buffers have also greatly reduced my sproing noise..

Please tell us how it is you believe that this buffer produces a "louder, boomier report". What aspect of the buffers function has been changed that produces these results? I'm pretty sure it's at the wrong end of the gun to produce the effect you described. I'll give you a reduction in "sproing". Only because I cannot in my mind come up with a clear reason why it could not. On the other hand I would really like to laugh or learn something today, so please elaborate on the "boomier report".

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Generally a fairly laid back person- however, i DO recall one visit to a large gun shop. Clerk asked what i was looking for- told him I was looking for a box of uncommon ammo- needed a box of .32 Short Colt revolver ammo.

With a bit of a sneer he tossed a box of .32 S&W on the counter, and advised me it did not matter what make of gun or what barrel length.

Smiled, told him I needed something else. Leaned over the counter and asked- "Could you please see if you have anyone working here that has the intelligence to LISTEN TO WHAT THE CUSTOMER ASKED?"

He looked kind of stunned. "The .32 Short Colt is the name of a cartridge, not a description of a gun. It is not a .32 S&W cartridge. If I had wanted .32 S&W, I would have asked for it. .32 Short Colt is a smaller diameter than .32 S&W, and is identical to an obsolete round called the .320 European Revolver cartridge. Now, do you want to go find someone to help me, or should I go looking for them?"

Manager was nice guy- asked what in the world I was shooting .320 Euro in, and gave me a second box free. When I left he had the Counter Cowboy headed towards the back room.

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We have a gunshop that is set up to tailor to the more tacticool crowd. I like many of the guns and supplies they carry but the owner is very opinionated.

I was looking at a 1911 Springfield and he kept trying to push me toward a Taurus. I used to work in a gun range/shop when I was going to college and we sold a lot of Taurus guns. We also sent a lot of Taurus guns in for repair. So, I guess I've become very opinionated myself.

Then I brought a friend in to look at an AR and the shop had just received 10 Carbon 15 ARs. He kept pushing my buddy toward that Carbon 15. So, I pulled out my iPhone and started scrolling through some pictures of broken Carbon 15 uppers and lowers because he said I couldn't prove that it was a bad idea to make receivers out of plastic to the same dimensions as an aluminum receiver without adding reenforcement to certain thin areas of an AR receiver. He shut up and left us alone after that. I only go there now to put my hands on guns before I order them from another shop with a more down to earth owner who also has better prices.

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Please tell us how it is you believe that this buffer produces a "louder, boomier report". What aspect of the buffers function has been changed that produces these results? I'm pretty sure it's at the wrong end of the gun to produce the effect you described. I'll give you a reduction in "sproing". Only because I cannot in my mind come up with a clear reason why it could not. On the other hand I would really like to laugh or learn something today, so please elaborate on the "boomier report".

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oh common!!! the sproing is awesome. i been shooting ar's since the 80's and it never gets old
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