[dog2000tj]

A while ago I posted in the AR15 forum about a lower I picked up from Territorial Gunsmiths. I spent a good bit of time thinking about it and asked forum members for some opinions and advice. I settled on a the basics and got started and some of the parts just came in. So here it is,

Territorial Gunsmiths SLR15 Multi Cal lower receiver
RRA A4 upper receiver
RRA BCG
National Match 2 Stage trigger (still backordered)
Oversized trigger guard
YHM EZ Takedown set
Badger tactical latch


Lower Receiver



Parts



Assembled

I know, the pivot pin is in backwards That has been remedied


The idea is to set this one up in.458 and I am leaning towards making this a SBR. But I have not settled on that so the barrel and foreguard are up in the air. Either way I am looking at a combo smooth/rail foreguard.


Up next on the plan will be

Buttstock - http://www.commandarms.com/product.asp?pID=205&cID=57
Grip - Welcome to ERGO Grip Products
Sights - a set of BUIS (undecided)
Scope - Eotech or Aimpoint red dot w/ 4x magnifier on a flip to side mount


Also up in the air is a name for her. Right now I am leaning towards the Hammer of Dawn

[Dillinger]

That a sweet looking piece of gear you got there Dog. Like the .458 Socom Idea. Sweet, hard hitting round.

Hammer of Dawn sounds good, but how about the Hammer of Athena? Greek Goddess of Wisdom and Battle, not to mention beauty.

JD

[dog2000tj]

Something I've been tossing around is the idea of making this a gas piston AR. I don't have any real definitive reason for it like maintenance/reliability/function. Right now it is more for the novelty/uniqueness factor, something along the lines of the theme of the lower.

Any opinions/suggestions?

Thanks

[RL357Mag]

Originally Posted by dog2000tj

Something I've been tossing around is the idea of making this a gas piston AR. I don't have any real definitive reason for it like maintenance/reliability/function. Right now it is more for the novelty/uniqueness factor, something along the lines of the theme of the lower.

Any opinions/suggestions?

Thanks

It's been stated in several gun magazines that gas piston systems introduce vibrations that can adversely affect accuracy. For semi-auto weapons, gas pistons don't do a thing for reliability and, if anything, add an extra step to your cleaning regimen. Gas pistons were designed primarily for weapons with full-auto capability where heat, temp, and carbon build-up are concerns due to cyclic rate. Nobody I know has ever had a failure or need to clean the gas tube on their AR-15.

[dog2000tj]

Just a little update on the .458. Some parts have come in over the last couple weeks. Nothing has been assembled and I am still hashing out some ideas. Plus, a few new questions have come to mind.

Here's a pic of the parts,

CAA CBS 6 Position Stock w/ Adjustable Check Rest
RRA NM 2 Stage Trigger
Ergo Grip
Stag Arms Lower Parts Kit


A few items I still need to get,
Bolt
Buffer tube and spring
Barrell and nut
Gas Block and gas tube
Foreguard

A few issues I need to resolve still are,
1) A good lead on .458 parts dealers?
2) Can I use the standard AR15 tube and buffer spring or do I need to get one calibrated more for the .458?
3) Barrell - I would like some suggestions on manufacturers. I am thinking of getting 2 - a 10"-12" for fun/CQ and maybe a 18'-20" range/hunting.

Thanks for all the help folks.

[dog2000tj]

Not a whole lot happening on the .458 front. The .458Socom Forum has been down a while , and almost as soon as parts are listed for sale they are gone, .

I tried contacting the folks at Teppo Jutsu a few times but never heard back.

I looked into the RRA .458 but if I go that route then what do I do with the lower, upper and bolt I already have?


I'm thinking of taking the easy route and just ordering a complete rifle or just the upper from Rock River. So far everything else that I have ordered from them has been top notch. After talking to them today they say the only backorder issue they have are barrels - anywhere from 4-8 months.

Any ideas/suggestions?

[dog2000tj]

Sorry that it's been a while since I have posted regularly but some personal issues came up - some good, some not so good, and my project in LI got crazy busy the past month and a half.

So what does all that have to do with my .458 project? I don't know, just thought I'd share.


As far as the .458 project goes a few new events have unfolded,

The .458socomforum is still down - I have been lost trying to get research done. I think I am going through withdrawals. WTF?

I did order a complete RRA .458SOCM upper from LegalTransfersInc. in NH. They were very helpful and easy to deal with and the prices were fantastic. I was told to expect the upper anywhere from 4-6 weeks.

I also managed to get a hold of man himself - Marty at TeppoJutsu. Being a noob he has been great to deal with and very helpful. As of today we are almost finished hashing out the meat of the project and soon I'll be getting into the finer personalized details.

So it looks as if I'll end up with 2 .458 uppers - a basic version from RRA and a personalized setup from the man himself.

Looks like another great Christmas for me.

[dunerunner]

Great dog....thought you'd stashed the project 'till next year. Thanks for the update!!

[CA357]

It sounds like a lot of hurry up and wait, but it will be worth it in the end. Great project!

[dog2000tj]

Originally Posted by dunerunner

Great dog....thought you'd stashed the project 'till next year. Thanks for the update!!

Just going a little slower than I had planned. Got anxious and pulled the trigger on the RRA upper just so I can get into the range with it. I've finalized the plans with Marty and should be sending him the parts I already have soon. He figures about 3 months to complete, really looking forward to it.

Originally Posted by CA357

It sounds like a lot of hurry up and wait, but it will be worth it in the end. Great project!

That's funny, some of the field managers for the company i work with joke that that is our company motto - "Hurry up and finish" . Then we get stuck waiting on the customer to complete the turnover.