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Old 04-17-2012, 09:08 PM   #11
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Ah, I see. Sorry its not working out for ya. I think I just read somewhere, someone saying they had issue with Pmags, but are having good luck with GIs and those Troy mags....


I like my 10 round .458 socom magazines. You know, here in Kommiefornia the only new magazines we can buy are limited to 10 rounds!

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Ah, I see. Sorry its not working out for ya. I think I just read somewhere, someone saying they had issue with Pmags, but are having good luck with GIs and those Troy mags....


I like my 10 round .458 socom magazines. You know, here in Kommiefornia the only new magazines we can buy are limited to 10 rounds!
Give 'em time. You'll wish you had a paintball gun! (I now nominate myself for evil bastiche of the year.)
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By using the standard .223 caliber lower assembly and UNMODIFIED magazines, the .458 SOCOM Advanced Weapons System can be deployed simply by switching upper assemblies. The standard 30-round .223 caliber magazine will hold 10 rounds of .458 SOCOM ammunition, whereas the 20-round magazine will hold 7, and the USA 40-round version up to 15 rounds. As such, the .458 SOCOM Advanced Weapons System lends itself perfectly for law enforcement and special operations applications.


taken from http://www.teppojutsu.com/458.htm
Wow I thought they were a tad big to go in there without modification . Guess you learn something new every day
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I've seen on 458SOCOMforum that some have done some slight modifications to the Pmags feed lips to make them work. Others have resort to seating the bullet just a hair deeper to clear the internal rib in the Pmag to make them work as well. I don't want to monkey around modifying mags, for me they either work or they don't. Any mag that doesn't function flawlessly gets put to the side for more testing - and usually I add some abuse to the testing. If it holds up it gets another try, if it doesn't it gets trashed.

So far that process has resulted in 40 Pmas and 2 Beta mags for the AR15. The 458 costs a crap ton to shoot so the mag testing is going a but slower than I would like

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Ah, I see. Sorry its not working out for ya. I think I just read somewhere, someone saying they had issue with Pmags, but are having good luck with GIs and those Troy mags....


I like my 10 round .458 socom magazines. You know, here in Kommiefornia the only new magazines we can buy are limited to 10 rounds!
So what if you have a 20 or 30 rd you gotta put stops in them ?
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I've seen on 458SOCOMforum that some have done some slight modifications to the Pmags feed lips to make them work. Others have resort to seating the bullet just a hair deeper to clear the internal rib in the Pmag to make them work as well. I don't want to monkey around modifying mags, for me they either work or they don't. Any mag that doesn't function flawlessly gets put to the side for more testing - and usually I add some abuse to the testing. If it holds up it gets another try, if it doesn't it gets trashed.

So far that process has resulted in 40 Pmas and 2 Beta mags for the AR15. The 458 costs a crap ton to shoot so the mag testing is going a but slower than I would like
Dog, just out of curiosity, why choose the .458 over the 6.8?
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Well for my dedicated 5.56 magz I do have to block them to 10, but my .458 socom mags are 10 rounders soo they are legal to have and to own......






I honestly can't think of anything one .458 socom won't DRT.

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Dog, just out of curiosity, why choose the .458 over the 6.8?
More lead , bigger power ,More knockdown
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I believe development of the .50 bushie and .458 socom was to make an anti material round for the ar15 platform for uses like roadblocks etc.

Its to make holes in transmissions and crack engine blocks. Just so happens it'll put down bullwinkle, yogi, bigfoot and hogzilla with one well placed round.

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Dog, just out of curiosity, why choose the .458 over the 6.8?
I have an AR10 ..... a dreaded low tier piece of junk DPMS AR10 ..... and for me recoil on that platform is no big deal so going to the 6.8SPC didn't hold much appeal for me.

Off topic - sometimes I wonder about the folks that complain about recoil or saving a few ounces on there AR. I mean how heavy do some folks think 7lbs is? I carry a 20lb tool belt on my hips everyday, my skillsaw weighs about 15lbs and I use that almost all day long. Some of the timbers I have to put into place weigh 400, 500, 600lbs - yet they get moved into place. Seriously, a few ounces, maybe a pound in savings? Damn folks, do some more calisthenics

Back on topic - Now I am looking into a custom AR10 but not becasue my DPMS is not reliable or that it has disappointed me in any way. That rifle has flat out rocked since I first shot it. But after building my AR15 and then immediately doing a custom AR458 this accursed affliction has taken hold of me and is too strong to break free from. So now I must have a custom built AR10 to satisfy my cravings ... damn my skin itches

Back on topic, again - Since I had an AR15 and I have this crippling affliction for more AR's I just had to have another caliber. I mean, why stop with 2 when you can have 3 right? So what I looked for was a larger caliber than the 5.56 in the AR15 and I stumbled upon Teppo Jutsu - I was hooked like a heroin addict at a meth clinic! and the rest is history. I did the research, took my time and read the info, compared the stats and listened to first hand accounts from those that use the cartridge. Probably the biggest factor that played in was the non-proprietaryness (is that even a word? if not I call dibbs on it!) of the caliber, it's adaptablity to the AR15 platform/components and the fact that whatever it hits it kills on the spot

what's that saying again ... Go big or ...
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