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Old 01-17-2012, 05:31 PM   #21
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Like what paladin said, bullet stick in barrel... And others like fte... I'm not saying u any shoot steel ammo... Just don't be surprised if something happens since u are putting low grade and quality rounds through it...

Steel expands less but also contracts slower that brass does too. This is why the steel needs to be lacquered in order to come out and brass doesn't... It's just not worth the headache for me to risk it.
Once again, what will break?

I've loaded a mixture of brass and steel in the same magazine in multiple magazines and put rounds on target in quick succession w/o failure.

What headache? Where are you getting your information?
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Someone should do a survey off people's experiences w/ steel ammo then record what manufacturer their AR was.
Start the pole , I would like to know the same my self
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Start the pole , I would like to know the same my self
The thing is most will not answer honestly and I don't think there is a big enough sample base to do it on just one forum. Plus you'd have to take age, experience, knowledge, and shooting habit/style into consideration. And don't forget to figure in if the individual had messed around w/ their AR and screwed it up. To many variables for a poll in my opinion.
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"What's happening here is that the steel Wolf cases aren't expanding enough to form a good seal when fired, so some of the (dirty, carbon-filled) gasses are getting between the case and the chamber, causing a build up of carbon in the chamber that is far in excess of normal. Then, firing a brass case that DOES expand fully will result in that case being "glued" into the chamber by the carbon buildup."

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu18.htm

It's dirty dirty ammo and that's what can cause ur gun to break...

Now ik this might be hard for you to understand since I said it 3 times already...

You CAN shoot what ever u f***ing want to through your gun! I'm just saying that u have a **** ton less probability of something going wrong with brass over steel...

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"What's happening here is that the steel Wolf cases aren't expanding enough to form a good seal when fired, so some of the (dirty, carbon-filled) gasses are getting between the case and the chamber, causing a build up of carbon in the chamber that is far in excess of normal. Then, firing a brass case that DOES expand fully will result in that case being "glued" into the chamber by the carbon buildup."

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu18.htm

It's dirty dirty ammo and that's what can cause ur gun to break...

Now ik this might be hard for you to understand since I said it 3 times already...

You CAN shoot what ever u f***ing want to through your gun! I'm just saying that u have a **** ton less probability of something going wrong with brass over steel...
Wow! That's classy, bud.....
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And u mean by that? We are all adults here.. U can't take a bad word or 2

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I think we can all take some language, and we've probably all dished some out. But, it's against forum rules, mostly just to avoid this kind of nastiness I believe, since the language is automatically censured out.

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And u mean by that? We are all adults here.. U can't take a bad word or 2
I'm not talking about the language, I'm talking about a guy asked you a direct question, which you have yet to answer.

People ask questions for a reason, and it is not so they will be belittled. You claim the ammo will cause the gun to "break". WHAT will break? I am considering this type of ammo, and if you have a specific example of it causing damage to an in-spec firearm, I'd like to know.

That's all I'm saying.
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U don't need an example to say something could break. I never said it will break or not I just said it might cause more damage than of u used brass rounds... But Extractors can snap from the force of being blown back with the case still in the chamber... If I was to say "ar15 break all the time from using steel cases" then that would require proof... Never said that tho..

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I'm not talking about the language, I'm talking about a guy asked you a direct question, which you have yet to answer.

People ask questions for a reason, and it is not so they will be belittled. You claim the ammo will cause the gun to "break". WHAT will break? I am considering this type of ammo, and if you have a specific example of it causing damage to an in-spec firearm, I'd like to know.

That's all I'm saying.
Steel cases are claimed to put more wear and tear on extractors. I'm in keats camp, a good quality AR properly maintained should have no problem.
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