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Old 06-30-2014, 03:12 PM   #1
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okay, I've tried to do my research…I've googled the heck out of this and read dozens of threads of people arguing across different forums…

and it looks like Bill Geissele himself recommends NOT using KNS pins with his triggers because they are slightly a different size and not as strong

…I read this in a few forums, but the threads were all started back in like 2008-2009. This was before the Super Dynamic line came out…

to get down to it, my questions is, 'is it okay to use KNS pins with the Geissele Super Dynamic Combat trigger?'

Mr. Geissele gave two reasons for not using KNS pins…they are too small (his pins are slightly larger) and not hard enough (his pins are specially treated and extremely tough)

BUT, that was 5 or 6 years ago when he said that…


AS OF NOW, on Geissele.com the SD-C trigger says that it uses a standard mil-spec pin size.
and if thats the case then problem #1 is solved, because so does KNS.

secondly, the KNS pins I want to use are the KNS Gen ST version which are "the strongest pins that can be produced" according to KNS. And these pins weren't around when Mr. Geissele made those statements.

heres a link to the pins:

http://www.knsprecisioninc.com/gen-st-non-rotating-trigger-hammer-pins-154-diameter-dark-earth.html

heres a link to the SD-C trigger:

http://geissele.com/super-dynamic-combat-trigger.html


I KNOW THE PINS WILL WORK, BUT I WANT TO KNOW IF I THERE WILL BE ANY NEGATIVE EFFECTS FROM USING THEM. OTHERS HAVE SAID IT IS POSSIBLE IT DAMAGES THE TRIGGER SOMEHOW…


and I know a lot of people out there hate KNS pins. thats fine. go ahead. don't use them. But i've had my pins walk out on me and fall into the receiver..twice.

yes, even after I made sure it was installed correctly. So i will continue to use KNS pins in EVERY build.

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Why do you want to use KNS pins?

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Why do you want to use KNS pins?
because i have had triggers pins walk out and fall into the receiver of my gun..

let me guess, you're going to say "well you didn't have the trigger installed correctly"…

wrong, i reinstalled it two more times and it kept happening…

then i ordered new trigger pins…

it still happened..

im guessing my lower is out of spec…one was a bravo company lower and one was a spikes tactical lower..(using daniel defense LPK)

i don't care if people think KNS pins are a waste of money…I'm going to use them on all of my builds
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this thread seems pretty pointless in that sense.

you seem convinced they are useful for your needs and are going to use them regardless of what others say.

so what is the point of this thread, if you have already done your research and your mind is already made up?

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this thread seems pretty pointless in that sense.

you seem convinced they are useful for your needs and are going to use them regardless of what others say.

so what is the point of this thread, if you have already done your research and your mind is already made up?
can you not read?
this thread isn't about wether or not one should use KNS pins..

this thread is about whether they will work with a Geissele trigger or not..
i will use KNS pins regardless. And I will use a trigger that works with them. I'm just hoping to use something from Geissele.

do yourself a favor and read the posts and think before you start typing
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Whoa dude!!! Take your ritalin. I wasn't going to criticize anything you had typed. But since you want to be a douche about it I guess I will answer your question for you your way.

Maybe next time you should read the interwebs a little better. Of course they'll work with your super fancy elitest trigger. I wouldn't use them but they will work. Again, what do I know because I just assume everything?

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Geissele is full of it! That is BS. The KNS Pins will improve even his triggers! KNS even ran a test for him and found them to be more than durable and an improvement. Of course the cantankerous old fart will not probably admit it but it is a fact. I know about the test!
Some people are overly impressed with themselves if you know what I mean!
Not saying at all that his triggers are not fine triggers! I also have several KNS Sets in my ARs and not one was not improved by installing them!

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Whoa dude!!! Take your ritalin. I wasn't going to criticize anything you had typed. But since you want to be a douche about it I guess I will answer your question for you your way.



Maybe next time you should read the interwebs a little better. Of course they'll work with your super fancy elitest trigger. I wouldn't use them but they will work. Again, what do I know because I just assume everything?

That was intended for Axxe.
I've received numerous rude and senseless remakes from over since I've been a member.





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can you not read?
this thread isn't about wether or not one should use KNS pins..

this thread is about whether they will work with a Geissele trigger or not..
i will use KNS pins regardless. And I will use a trigger that works with them. I'm just hoping to use something from Geissele.

do yourself a favor and read the posts and think before you start typing
you already answered you own question.

which again, i'll point out makes this thread pointless.

don't get all butthurt simply because someone pointed out the obvious.
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I did NOT answer my own question.
My question is whether or not it's okay to use KNS pins with a Geissele trigger.

I will use KNS pins either way. But if it's not okay to use then with a Geissele trigger then I will pick a different trigger.

You should really stop typing.

You're starting to look bad.


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