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Old 02-08-2012, 08:47 PM   #11
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This thread needs a homework assignment:

Springfield Armory - Springfield, Massachusetts

Springfield Armory - Geneseo, Illinois

There is a big difference.

...to the googles men!

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Old 02-09-2012, 12:43 AM   #12
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This thread needs a homework assignment:

Springfield Armory - Springfield, Massachusetts

Springfield Armory - Geneseo, Illinois

There is a big difference.

...to the googles men!
We'll let you google all you want. What difference does it make, doesn't change the the fact that the old logo was copied. Not saying anything should be done about it since for all I know that logo may be in the public domain now.
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We'll let you google all you want. What difference does it make, doesn't change the the fact that the old logo was copied. Not saying anything should be done about it since for all I know that logo may be in the public domain now.
The difference is:

Springfield Armory Massachusetts was a government arsenal which operated from 1777-1968.

Springfield Armory Illinois is a private corporation which originated in San Antonio and Devine, Texas operating from 1974 to present.

My point is:

Some people overlook these facts and think they are one and the same...logos or no logos.
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Not saying it effects quality of the lower but the rollmark is not all that unique...actually it borders on a trademark infringement on Springfield Armory's centuries old logo...just sayin.

The logo (minus the lettering) is the Army Ordnance Oorps logo as well.
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OK, so it looks like the logo infringement thing is a non-starter as USA Ord is "public" and the "SA" that built my 1942 Garand is NLA.
Look closely at RatWorks and it has the angry rat coming out of the right side of the circle - cool!

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The owners (Bill & Al) of Ratworx are personal friends of mine.

http://www.ratworxusa.com/pagHome.aspx

You will not find better gentlemen to deal with in the firearms trade...period.

Don't quote me, but I think Sonju Industries manufactures their lowers.
They are great quality lowers.

http://www.sonjuind.com/about.html

Here is a page with the latest AR related news from them.

http://www.sonju.net/index.html
Knowing these guys - you would do the AR community a service by asking them if they know from their industry-insider info; just who is making who's lowers.

I think a lot of folks would be surprised to discover that the lower of their beloved Brand X was made by their loathed Brand Y.
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Knowing these guys - you would do the AR community a service by asking them if they know from their industry-insider info; just who is making who's lowers.

I think a lot of folks would be surprised to discover that the lower of their beloved Brand X was made by their loathed Brand Y.
There are a *few* companies that make *most* lowers.

First hit from a Google search:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/318113_AR_Lower_Receiver_FAQ__56k_beware__MMS__CMT __LAR__LMT_compared___.html
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Knowing these guys - you would do the AR community a service by asking them if they know from their industry-insider info; just who is making who's lowers.

I think a lot of folks would be surprised to discover that the lower of their beloved Brand X was made by their loathed Brand Y.
Why does it matter where they come from? Suppliers can vary their tolerances per customers specs. The supplier will also vary the intensity of their inspection process per customers expectations. Any customer worth their weight will also perform inspections of the parts. Suppliers know which customers do this as well. Been there, done that.
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