Flashlight or not to flashlight, scenario inside. - Page 2
You are Unregistered, please register to use all of the features of FirearmsTalk.com!    
Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > Long Guns > Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion > AR-15 Discussion > Flashlight or not to flashlight, scenario inside.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-07-2012, 05:30 PM   #11
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Todd_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 238
Liked 9 Times on 9 Posts

Default

And tikki, your flashlight setup is a bunch of mumbo jumbo jargon to me ATM, we gotta get our heads together so I can figure out what you said.... Because the end product, a super bright light with one hell of a throw, sounds fan-flipping-tastic.

Btw tikki, do you ever sleep? :P
__________________
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Todd_ is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2012, 06:00 PM   #12
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
AgentTikki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: City of Lost Angels, Kommifornia
Posts: 3,453
Liked 338 Times on 264 Posts
Likes Given: 51

Default

wha? sleep? wassat?
__________________
Assumption is the mother of all ****ups.
Know what you know, Know what you don't know. -Paul Pedzolt
"Jack of all trades, master of none, though oftentimes better than master of one" -Mynshul
AgentTikki is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2012, 06:02 PM   #13
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
CHLChris's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Portland,Oregon
Posts: 2,523
Liked 191 Times on 130 Posts
Likes Given: 89

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd_ View Post
I am a huge fan of lasers that are NOT powerful enough to leave a beam showing its source
In clear air a laser won't reveal a beam of light, no matter how bright. If shooting has begun, and there is gunpowder residue in the air, a laser will betray a beam no matter how dim.

And once shooting has begun, every cell in your body will be screaming about survival, not thinking about tactics. That is, unless you are highly and deeply trained in combat tactics. I know I'm not!
__________________
.45acp, .40 S&W, 9mm, .38 Spl, .380 acp, 22lr
12 gauge, .223/5.56x45mm, 30-30 Winchester


2 Chron. 7:14 Christians must seek His face
CHLChris is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2012, 06:06 PM   #14
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
BenLuby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Douglasville,Georgia
Posts: 2,181
Liked 78 Times on 44 Posts
Likes Given: 8

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHLChris View Post
In clear air a laser won't reveal a beam of light, no matter how bright. If shooting has begun, and there is gunpowder residue in the air, a laser will betray a beam no matter how dim.

And once shooting has begun, every cell in your body will be screaming about survival, not thinking about tactics. That is, unless you are highly and deeply trained in combat tactics. I know I'm not!
Got a secret for ya: That training doesn't do jack squat for the pucker factor in a hot situation.
__________________
What part of 'shall not be infringed' confuses people?
BenLuby is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2012, 06:22 PM   #15
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
AgentTikki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: City of Lost Angels, Kommifornia
Posts: 3,453
Liked 338 Times on 264 Posts
Likes Given: 51

Default

When you look at a torch, you wanna look for brightness, throw and spill. (There are other factors but these are the main characteristics)

How intense the light is? How man lumens or candela (types of measurements)
How far the beam will go, throw.
How wide the beam is, spill.

If you have all throw and no spill, you have a laser. Not much help indoors, but it'll reach out real far.

If you have all spill and no throw, you can light up your room, but won't do squat outdoors.

I personally like lots of spill and decent throw.

I really really like this cheapo flashlight. I have more expensive models, but I kind of don't want to bash it around. With these budget builds, I'm not afraid of dropping it in a pool of oil, or work under a car with it, or accidently drop it. Its pretty damn sturdy, i've already dropped it a few times on concrete from my hands (accidently) and dropped it in a sink full of water (purposefully). The Cree XL-M T6 Led module I'm using in it is super gd bright. 550 lumens is light a car's low beam headlights. Having a car's headlight in a 6" x 1" package in your hands is nice. It has more throw than a standard car's headlights, but not as much spill. It uses 18650 rechargeable batteries which cost from $4 to $10 (depending on quality) but they last for about 1 hour on max setting, you can see it getting noticeably dimmer at about 40 mins and it slowly peters out. It'll last much more on the mid and lower settings but I haven't tested it that myself.

I bought one, loved it and bought 12 more in an improptu group by with some friends. It is a cheapo made in China model but the body is sturdy and like I said, its cheap enough that if I destroy it, I don't really worry about it. One of the reasons why I started to look for a cheaper light, is that on my last camping trip, by wife lost my my 4sevens light, and my son lost my fenix >.< Those were $100+ flashlights. The Ultrafire 502b with Cree XLM was I got it for like $25 by shopping around.

If you are interested in a more tactical use, with a remote tape switch or whatnot, you can look up other P60 bodies. I think the Ultrafire 504 is compatible with Surefire remote switches, and there a few more. These bodies are a bit more at about $18 to 20. Still a bargain eh?

If you are interested check out
http://budgetlightforum.com/forum
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/forum.php
__________________
Assumption is the mother of all ****ups.
Know what you know, Know what you don't know. -Paul Pedzolt
"Jack of all trades, master of none, though oftentimes better than master of one" -Mynshul
AgentTikki is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2012, 08:53 PM   #16
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
CHLChris's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Portland,Oregon
Posts: 2,523
Liked 191 Times on 130 Posts
Likes Given: 89

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BenLuby View Post
Got a secret for ya: That training doesn't do jack squat for the pucker factor in a hot situation.
So it's even worse than I said... Even more reason not to worry about that laser's brightness or whether or not it gives away your location. I would only worry about "Does a laser help me put rounds on target?" For everybody there is a different answer to that question.
__________________
.45acp, .40 S&W, 9mm, .38 Spl, .380 acp, 22lr
12 gauge, .223/5.56x45mm, 30-30 Winchester


2 Chron. 7:14 Christians must seek His face
CHLChris is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
Tactical Flashlight for under 60.00? indyfan Firearm Accessories & Gear 2 02-05-2011 09:03 AM
some photos on flashlight neoseikan Firearm Accessories & Gear 0 08-04-2009 02:16 PM
Cool Flashlight dnthmn2004 Survival & Sustenance Living Forum 2 07-02-2009 01:44 PM
flashlight gun falseharmonix The Club House 4 12-30-2008 04:38 PM
Best flashlight technology available notdku Firearm Accessories & Gear 2 05-21-2007 04:38 AM