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Old 05-14-2014, 01:57 AM   #1
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A little back history about myslef and the AR platform.... I was first introduced to it when my dad (LEO) brought his issued AR home and since we live in the country we were able to shoot it before he went to qualify the next day and ever since then I have wanted one so bad. It was all decked out with a red dot, light and flip up sights....the whole nine yards..... from then on, I would always shoot it when he brought it home and it was a big surprise because I always went to school the next day and bragged that I got to shoot an AR! Needless to say that was over 10 years ago and when my dad retired he was able to get an AR just like this duty one and I still shoot it from time to time but now I want my own one

I am still new to the cleaning and take down and rebuild part of it though. So that where I hope you guys can help and that is why I wanted to start with a complete upper and lower.


So after some heavy research and reading a bunch of threads here, I am convinced a complete lower and upper from PSA would be a good solid gun for me to get. It would also be in my buget.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/lowers/complete-psa-ar15-lower-moe-edition-black.html
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/barreled-upper-assemblies/psa-m4-premium-16-cmv-cl-upper-with-bcg-and-charging-handle.html

So I am reaching out to all of you guys and gals to tell me the pros and cons of this set up. I am also looking for opinions on what else would be good to add to this or change. Also this will be used for.....target pratice, SHTF, 50yrds-about 400-500yrds, practical traning, hunting, etc. Basicly I want this gun to be my one and only go to rifle. Thanks

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Nice picks the only thing I would suggest is to go with a mid length gas system. It has a "less sharp" recoil and allows me to take faster followup shots. Check out the link below.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/barreled-upper-assemblies/ptac-16-mid-length-5-56mm-1-7-upper-without-bcg-or-charging-handle.html

This is still the lower cost PTAC line, The quality is good but not up to the FN milspec barrel on the next lower. Unfortunately it out of stock right now.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/barreled-upper-assemblies/psa-16-5-56-nato-stainless-steel-hammer-forged-upper.html

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Nice picks the only thing I would suggest is to go with a mid length gas system. It has a "less sharp" recoil and allows me to take faster followup shots. Check out the link below.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/barreled-upper-assemblies/ptac-16-mid-length-5-56mm-1-7-upper-without-bcg-or-charging-handle.html

This is still the lower cost PTAC line, The quality is good but not up to the FN milspec barrel on the next lower. Unfortunately it out of stock right now.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/barreled-upper-assemblies/psa-16-5-56-nato-stainless-steel-hammer-forged-upper.html
So your saying go for the one that is out of stock? Do you know how much it is? Ballpark?
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I don't think it gets much better than that for a first AR.

*Caution* AR's tend to breed, quickly!!!

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So your saying go for the one that is out of stock? Do you know how much it is? Ballpark?
I've seen them for ~$325 with the Bolt and charging handle. If you lurk and wait for a blemished version ~$225-250. Really the PTAC mid length on the top link is good, just we have sooo many hyper-picky members that anything less than "brand X" milspec won't do at all....

This link has an FN barrel, Way more details and specs on the barrel, see, it must be better....

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I've seen them for ~$325 with the Bolt and charging handle. If you lurk and wait for a blemished version ~$225-250. Really the PTAC mid length on the top link is good, just we have sooo many hyper-picky members that anything less than "brand X" milspec won't do at all....
LOL thats ok to be hyper-picky......want to do it right! Do they make that same barrel in 16"? How quick is PSA about getting things back in stock?
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LOL thats ok to be hyper-picky......want to do it right! Do they make that same barrel in 16"? How quick is PSA about getting things back in stock?
PSA is kind of hit and miss about restocking. Especially since things are really just getting back to normal. It might be quicker to order the PTAC now and rebarrel it if you feel the need after firing it. I really don't think you will, this barrel should last 20,000 rds or more with no loss of accuracy...

Daniel Defense, and Yankee Hill Machine and CMMG make great barrels for this idea. Light profile and mid gas system seems to be what most of us here agree on. The other details might take some FTF wrangling...
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I would definitely suggest the mid length also. I would stick with the PSA "Premium" line with the FN barrel. The PTAC line is kind of hit and miss with reviews. It is worth spending a little more for the known quality. IMO

I have 4 PSA uppers and all have been excellent here are two of my PSA builds. imageuploadedbyfirearms-talk1400035723.801065.jpgimageuploadedbyfirearms-talk1400035751.161288.jpg


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I like that top picture!!! Dumb question though.....how can you tell if its a mid-length gas system?

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Easy answer look for the words Mid-length in the description. Its between the carbine short gas tube and the rifle full length tube so "mid".


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