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Old 06-07-2011, 02:02 PM   #31
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Some of those prices are MSRP. You can get the LMT for a few hundred less than the price you have listed.

I still think your best bet is to build a rifle around a Noveske barrel.

Edit: Did a real quick search and it seams Mega makes the most affordable AR10 type recievers.

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Old 06-07-2011, 06:33 PM   #32
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Mandy,
Why do you have to say that? I was just getting to exclude one thing.

PWS MK214 Rifle, 7.62x51, FDE - MK2 Series Rifles - PWS



What is this one about? Any good?
Fulton Armory | FAR-308 "Titan"

Ok, please tell me what ones I should be looking into:


DPMS
Armalite
Knights Armament Company (KAC)
Fulton Armory
Patriot Ordnance Factory (POF)
Larue Tactical
Lewis Machine Tool (LMT) coming soon MTP 7.62 MRP 308
Rock River Arms (RRA)
Noveske Rifleworks
Fidelis Arms
American Precision Arms (formerly Patriot Arms Inc)
RND Manufacturing, Inc. - The EDGE
JP Rifles
Eagle Arms (is Armalite)
American Spirit Arms
Iron Ridge Gun Works (IRA)
Remington
Kaiser Military Technologies
JD Machine Tech, Inc
SI Defense


TBD
Accuracy Systems
G.A. Precision (GAP)

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Go to A gun show in Vegas you can fin everything your looking for pretty cheap because most things are legal and its close to California. For a magazine in California your best bet is to get it online, you could get one of the 30round mags thats modified for 10 rounds but you would have to file the bottom plate down since it is welded and it would void warranty but you should be able to travel with it and when your in CA its a 10 rounder but if you go somewhere else its a 30 rounder. check out www nationalmagazine . net for the AR-10 mags they are pretty cheap under $10 I believe and are 308 compatible

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Gunshow in NV, not a bad idea.

I'm fine with the 10 round mags. Bullet button is a hassle.
Just trying to find the most awesome rifle within my budget.
I don't know the reputations of the above companies. I started to price them out...

Some are $1K, some are over $2K, others are $5K and one of them was $20K!
Still trying to put together an under $2K rifle that will last a lifetime or 2.

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Gunshow in NV, not a bad idea.

I'm fine with the 10 round mags. Bullet button is a hassle.
Just trying to find the most awesome rifle within my budget.
I don't know the reputations of the above companies. I started to price them out...

Some are $1K, some are over $2K, others are $5K and one of them was $20K!
Still trying to put together an under $2K rifle that will last a lifetime or 2.
First I'm going to retract my response to Billet receivers. After making that comment I have spent what extra time I have to research it a little further. What I found has lead me to believe billet is a valid substitute for forging. They are a little larger on average but not all that much. Not enough to really be intrusive.

IMO a Mega matched receiver set and Noveske barrel would be a great start. Maybe through in an LMT bolt and a nice LPK w/ PRS or UBR stock.
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DPMS style, does have it's own mags? When i got to look for mags, what
am I looking for? I didn't even see choosing the correct mags as a
foreseeable issue.
I've got an 18"Bbl DPMS myself. I order mags through Midway. They have 4, 10, and 19rd mags. All are $29.99, but commonly go on sale for under $25. Last time I ordered I know I picked up 4 for about $100 delivered. The DPMS mags seem well built and have been 100% reliable.
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As far as mags go, PMag makes 20rd mags that fit DPMS and others that are DPMS compatible - http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=2002

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I talked with my dealer today and we went over a few things together.
After the talk i realized, there aren't that many companies making what i'm looking for.
Okay, so what are you looking to buy? At the prices you are talking I can build you one for less than that and have some play money left over to finance my next forum project.

What do you want it to do? Shoot how far? How fast? How many rounds will you shoot a month? At what distance? And what accuracy are you expecting? Do you have the skill to produce that accuracy if I hand you one of my boltguns, today with wind and rain and all the conditions, that I know can shoot that well? Or are you beginning your long range journey and looking to improve?
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Okay, so what are you looking to buy? At the prices you are talking I can build you one for less than that and have some play money left over to finance my next forum project.
That's what I was thinking, you can build one of these for half the advertised cost of these complete rifles.

What do you want it to do? Shoot a .308 10 times before reloading
Shoot how far? 100 to 800 yards
How fast? Well-placed rounds as fast as 1 per 2 seconds
How many rounds will you shoot a month? 100 or less
At what distance? Usually 100 to 200 yards, would like to try a 1,000 yard range someday
And what accuracy are you expecting?1 MOA, I don't know if that's too demanding though.
Do you have the skill to produce that accuracy if I hand you one of my boltguns, today with wind and rain and all the conditions, that I know can shoot that well? Fairly confident in my skills to send lead down-range in a tight group, scope/sights being the limiting factor. - beyond 200 yards other things start to come into play, and I have no experience with.

Or are you beginning your long range journey and looking to improve? YES! Sign me up!
If the Remington R-25 costs $1,100 no frills...
Then you add $350 in furniture, I should have
a super-accurate gun that looks SASS right?

What makes all these guns so damn expensive?
  1. Upper & Barrel
  2. Muzzle Break
  3. Lower
  4. Buttstock furniture
  5. Rail/Handgard
  6. Bipod
  7. Scope (not to be included in the build)
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