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Old 10-06-2013, 09:32 PM   #21
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You're very welcome. It has been a couple years since I worked on an AP4 so am not sure if they have changed since then or not.

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Old 10-07-2013, 09:49 PM   #22
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DPMS Oracle- Is a $600 AR. Very basic, but should run just fine. As long it isn't abused, you'll always be able to resell it for $500+. So buying it won't kill you. You can have a lot of fun with a cheap AR and they'll generally perform pretty well.

Now here's the part where a few people might say I start to sound like an 'AR snob'...Where people often lose their asses is when they buy a $600 AR and try to build it up into a $1000-1500 rifle. It's just not real practical. It makes about as much sense as building a luxury wing on an existing mobil home.

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What Sweeper 22 said. And not just about the AR platform. I bought a Walmart Bushy just before the panic hit and made it what I wanted, it's a 308 and I have about 2600 in it if I leave the scope and mount out of it.
I don't even want to know what I could buy today for the same money. Guess it's good I like it.

Whenever possible I would buy as much of the gun you want as possible off the shelf. A piece every few weeks will get you there but it's kinda like buying a rent to own tv.

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Since the shutdown, the prices of AR's has come down considerably. DPMS has been dumping low cost M4geries in my area for 450-600 buck range, which is cheaper than even a rifle kit from most mfr's. From what I see they are picky eaters of the ammo though.

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If Psa ever goes out if business I can think of 2-3 guys that are gonna have to quit shooting lol

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I own a Oracle and it's been very reliable and jam free. This was even before I did any Up-Grades for my personal tastes and choices. Hopefully when I get my new 1-4 Bushnell Scope for it, it will be even better.

Just remember that these are not a Mag Dump type Rifle because of the Non-Chromed Lined Barrels, but other than this, I find they work and function just fine. Just use plenty of Oil to keep the Bolt moist for best operation. Especially if you haven't builtup any backup parts.

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