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Old 08-05-2011, 05:46 PM   #21
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Cerro Forge, Cardinal, Anchor Harvey and others forge quality receivers for many companies. So it's not surprising that most stripped upper and lower receivers are GTG. The problems start showing up in other areas, a lot of them the steel used.

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Don't know much about DPMS other than I have seen many people say they are fine on various forums. I have held one at the local gun store. Keep in mind that you'll be shelling out $100 or so for a good back up iron sight for the delton flattop.

ETA: I have Rock River Arms LAR-15 flattop that I paid $900 for. I really really like it. I have not owned any others so I cannot compare.

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I was doing some more digging around and was looking at the specs of the major ar mfg's out there. Most of them are comparible in the manufacturing process and the material used; colt, rra, and even del-ton. The only difference I was seeing were what seemed to be the frequency of quality verification. DPMS was not listed and I could not find specs for them, but Del-ton only has some small non technical specs different from the big ar mfg's, the big one being the 1:9 barrel twist.

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I have a Del-Ton Mid Length with a 16" barrel, 1x9 twist. Very happy with the quality. It did take eight weeks to get it from the day I placed the order. Del-Ton gave me free t-shirt for waiting so long. Their ad says 4 to 6 weeks.

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Sorry NOVA, I have a Del-ton as well and was getting crap for comparing the quality of the rifle to anything more expensive. I am going to the range on Sunday to teach my girlfriend how to shoot both my SA XD 40 and my Del-ton. I will have to put up a couple of different targets and I will take pics so you guys can see what sort of group I shoot and what she shoots. It will be a good indication of how good the rifle is with an experienced shooter and a first timer. I just hope she doesn't whimp out and decide its too loud.

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Groups aren't always an indicator of how good a rifle is.

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When buying a rifle you do get what you pay for. There are some differences but most people would not know or care what they are.
As stated the upper quality guns are Rock River Arms, Lewis Machine and Tool (LMT) Stag, CMMG, and certainly Sabre Defense who is no longer in business who was recently bought out by Manroy. Who may come back with LE and commercial rifles soon that will be built with the same materials, machinery and at the old Sabre plant in Nashville TN. It really depends on how much you are going to shoot and also the accessories that come on some of the top of the line rifles that are standard equipment. Like Rock Rivers 2 Stage NM trigger, RRA Hague Pistol Grip, Side Sling Swivel and Star Selector Switch and Ltd. Lifetime Guarantee for example.
Regarding the barrel twist I prefer the 1:9 due to versatility of shooting the lighter bullets as well as up to the low 70 grain bullets.
But as Dillinger and some of the other pros here have said. You can build you a fine rifle also and choose the quality of parts you use.
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Depending on the manufacturer you sometimes get more than you pay for.

There are a couple manufacturers that got left out such as BCM, Noveske, KAC, Daniel Defense, Spikes and Colt. These definitely help make up the top ten rifles.

In my experience the top rifles usually come equipped w/ Magpul and VLTOR.

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as others stated. stag arms are wonderful. i have one total cost was 900.30. and it comes with a lifetime warrenty. anything breaks they cover shipping parts and labour(already had a reapir done on mine.. taper pins for front sight came lose.. had no issues and it took just about a month). now you can beat that. i love my rifle.. and my friend liked it so he bought one two. he paid 930. but it was a different model. go with a stag and you wont regret it

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Sorry NOVA, I have a Del-ton as well and was getting crap for comparing the quality of the rifle to anything more expensive. I am going to the range on Sunday to teach my girlfriend how to shoot both my SA XD 40 and my Del-ton. I will have to put up a couple of different targets and I will take pics so you guys can see what sort of group I shoot and what she shoots. It will be a good indication of how good the rifle is with an experienced shooter and a first timer. I just hope she doesn't whimp out and decide its too loud.
thats what they make ear plugs and earmuffs for :P
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