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Old 03-03-2012, 08:10 PM   #161
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Don't forget the idea of having a good gunsmith putting together an awesome ar for you. Not one brand makes all the best parts. With some a good smith and a lot of online deal shopping for the features you want, you can have your dream ar without breaking the bank.
That could work if you have absolute faith in the gunsmith - that he knows what he's doing and knows exactly what you want. Sadly the odds are highly stacked against that. Even the best gunsmith won't build the best AR for you unless you can tell him what to build and which parts to use (for your application).

For that reason I'd say the person who puts in enough thought and research can easily select the right parts himself and put together the best AR for himself. No gunsmith required. (Now if you need custom work then that could change.)
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Purtty easy to put your own together, it ain't rocket science.

On the car seat comparison, A Camry will take you anywhere a Lexus will, both are good cars.

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Purtty easy to put your own together, it ain't rocket science.

On the car seat comparison, A Camry will take you anywhere a Lexus will, both are good cars.
But what happens when you want to leave the side streets and really drop the hammer?
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:03 AM   #164
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Out of those 2 systems, I would defiantly go with the DPMS...really well made weapons for the price...if you are ok with saving up and buying a top of the line AR...I would recommend a DANIEL DEFENSE, YHM, or Black Rain Ordnance ...they are some of the best money can buy

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But what happens when you want to leave the side streets and really drop the hammer?
The Camry will cruise at 80 comfortably. it will do more but isn't needed, it's not a race track out there.

Kinda the same way with firearms, whether shooting a elk or deer with a Savage or a Dakota, the critter won't know the difference, both will get the job done equally.
My main hunting rifle's, AR, and most others would be considered between those two in price and quality.
Not to belittle Savage as the one I own shoots as well as any gun I have ever owned, and Savage's customer service has in the past treated me excellent. Kudo's to them!

Unless your hunting dangerous game the cheaper gun will shoot great groups, as good as the other, and get the job done fine.

Same with civilian AR's, one can pay for far more to fill one's needs than is necessary, didn't say "not better" said "unnecessary".

Like the Camry we own, a forged AR of good quality parts is all that is required, at least in my world.
Yours or others needs/wants may be different.
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The Camry will cruise at 80 comfortably. it will do more but isn't needed, it's not a race track out there.

Kinda the same way with firearms, whether shooting a elk or deer with a Savage or a Dakota, the critter won't know the difference, both will get the job done equally.
My main hunting rifle's, AR, and most others would be considered between those two in price and quality.
Not to belittle Savage as the one I own shoots as well as any gun I have ever owned, and Savage's customer service has in the past treated me excellent. Kudo's to them!

Unless your hunting dangerous game the cheaper gun will shoot great groups, as good as the other, and get the job done fine.

Same with civilian AR's, one can pay for far more to fill one's needs than is necessary, didn't say "not better" said "unnecessary".

Like the Camry we own, a forged AR of good quality parts is all that is required, at least in my world.
Yours or others needs/wants may be different.
Talk to some of these guys who frequent higher level carbine cources or spend a lot of time at the range. Not everyone plinks from a bench. Some guys require a little more reliability because the do spend a lot of time on a "race track."
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The thing is, a Camry is a quality car at a midrange price where DPMS and Del-ton are midrange price but not quite Camry quality. In ARs for midrange price you can do much better.

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DPMS's were selling online a few days ago at $570 delivered. That is NOT a midrange price, but the rifle is of midrange quality.

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Talk to some of these guys who frequent higher level carbine cources or spend a lot of time at the range. Not everyone plinks from a bench. Some guys require a little more reliability because the do spend a lot of time on a "race track."
Bingo! Thank you.

A stock Camry is not what one wants for NASCAR either
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DPMS's were selling online a few days ago at $570 delivered. That is NOT a midrange price, but the rifle is of midrange quality.
But what corners have been cut? What's missing? Chrome lining? Sights? Yeah, what's missing? Also you're entering the PSA and S&W M&P-15 Sport price range and better quality.
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