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Mikejk,
Perhaps my use of proper English an grammar was misused.
Nowhere in the post did I recommend buying a DPMS. I simply stated a fact that the AR format is one that a person can easily change an add options at will. I did not endorse any product. Without being a braggart I can easily purchase whatever I desire without anyone's approval or permission.
I would like someone to respond to my question about seeing a receiver failure.
I hope this clears things up for you. Have a good day.
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05-08-2012, 05:50 PM
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Receivers do break, usually they don't but they can. Here's Vulcan that definitely has a bad rap. Also sometimes the forging is fine but drilling is bad.
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05-08-2012, 06:37 PM
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Quentin, thanks for the photos.
Manufacturing defects aside. I was wondering if anyone has seen a failure either in competition or in battle of a receiver. Under what some in this forum refer to as a run and gun situation.
That to me would be the answer to the quality question.
Thanks
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05-08-2012, 07:22 PM
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I can not take the opinion of someone who would eat a Twinkie seriously. 
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I resemble that remark! 
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05-08-2012, 07:51 PM
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I can not take the opinion of someone who would eat a Twinkie seriously. 
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As an American, I must, by constitutional decree, question the citizenship of anyone that refuses to demean a national treasure. Long after the zombies have run over this ball of dirt, survivors will be finding twinkies and celebrating. Now...ID please.
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Originally Posted by losack
Mikejk,
Perhaps my use of proper English an grammar was misused.
Nowhere in the post did I recommend buying a DPMS. I simply stated a fact that the AR format is one that a person can easily change an add options at will. I did not endorse any product. Without being a braggart I can easily purchase whatever I desire without anyone's approval or permission.
I would like someone to respond to my question about seeing a receiver failure.
I hope this clears things up for you. Have a good day.
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All parts eventually wear out, as we all know. It's just some companies have higher failure rates than others, and, even though an Oly may be flawless for most people, there are always those that seem to get a POS for an AR from them, and go on a mad rant.
There's other manufacturers that suffer the same fate. And those that it is a rare occurrence with. Now...either they're building better rifles on average, or they have a room full of people who are computer geniuses that flitter from site to site scrubbing negative comments, or, they simply put out higher quality.
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05-08-2012, 09:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by losack
Quentin, thanks for the photos.
Manufacturing defects aside. I was wondering if anyone has seen a failure either in competition or in battle of a receiver. Under what some in this forum refer to as a run and gun situation.
That to me would be the answer to the quality question.
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ive seen lower receivers break when a couple of soldiers goofing around practicing buttstroking trees... Colt M16A2.
what happens more though is poor out of spec parts for the receiver or incorrectly drilled holes ovaling out pin holes from extended use with incorect parts. this happens a lot with lower end AR15 like dpms.
the issues happen when someone goes and replaces the stock parts with milspec and they may not quite fit right. those folks then get the idea when their out of spec reciever walks the pins out.
waaaallllaaaaa you get a products like kns anti-walk pins. a properly made lower with properly made pieces will function perfectly fine stock. however it takes a lot of rounds and i mean a LOT for any receiver to oval out the pin holes.
as for cracking or breaking thats just defect or defective material. any receiver even lower end ones like dpms just arent going to fail under normal civilian use
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05-09-2012, 01:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by losack
Mikejk,
Perhaps my use of proper English an grammar was misused.
Nowhere in the post did I recommend buying a DPMS. I simply stated a fact that the AR format is one that a person can easily change an add options at will. I did not endorse any product. Without being a braggart I can easily purchase whatever I desire without anyone's approval or permission.
I would like someone to respond to my question about seeing a receiver failure.
I hope this clears things up for you. Have a good day.
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Proper use of the English language "an" grammar? You have to admit that is a little funny
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05-09-2012, 03:08 AM
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Predictive spelling on the I-phone.
No hard feelings Mike! I can take the ribbing.
What's strange is here in America it's great that we can even have these kinds of debates and we really don't appreciate the basic freedoms we have in this country.
Praise God that we are so blessed to be from where we are, where we live, with what we have. I'm just glad that I can get in a vehicle, afford the gas, drive to numerous gun shops and purchase any different number of firearms. Then come home and enjoy unrestricted uncensored discussions about a variety of topics and enjoy the debate.
I still haven't heard of an actual melt down of an AR receiver during usage. Whether full auto or semi-auto. Does anyone know how many if any American foundries make AR receivers. Those are the ones we should all be buying!
I just bought a CMMG lower to build the price was decent and my LGS only had it and a S&W which had the exact same specs. In my search for just a lower parts kit midway was the only one that had anything in stock. So I went and bought a DPMS LPK.
I'll let you all know if it melts! Have a great evening people! Pray for our country and our service men abroad!
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05-09-2012, 03:26 AM
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Non here either. You should be gtg.
Last edited by MikeJK; 05-09-2012 at 03:52 AM.
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09-23-2012, 11:45 PM
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ok so for a first time shooter like myself, im looking at getting a DPMS panther Arms AP4 carbine but really only plan to use it at the range maybe 3-4 times a month (if allowed by the wife). So the AP4 would be alright for me right or should i look more into my 2nd choice. I dont pan on doing any running and gunning unless the zombies come...lol
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