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Old 05-21-2012, 04:03 AM   #41
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well if mine goes boom you know im gonna post pics and the story

if it was someone like kimber or keltec making similar statements bcm is making i would need a king sized bag of salt to believe it.

a company cannot get away making milspec quality claims for long and get away without someone finding out. just takes one disgruntled employee to pop the bubble
You don't trust kimber? You put Kimber into the same category as Keltec...
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I have no issues with BCM, LaRue, Noveski, Stag...blah blah blah. I just don't buy 4150CMV from anyone other than Colt/FN without seeing the report. I think the problem here is many attribute not buying from someone as a sign the buyer thinks the seller is of poor quality. Thats your hang up... not mine.

I have said on many forums, I love BCM products.

I remember when Paul published that report. As I remember he also had a company chop up a Colt barrel for testing too.
No, Fixer, it was actually the way that you phrased it about them. Nothing more.
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You don't trust kimber? You put Kimber into the same category as Keltec...
Lol yeah i dont heh.
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Lol yeah i dont heh.
Gotta second you on that. Heard too many reports and read too many posts of Kimber owners having to toss hundreds of rounds down the pipe to 'break it in' and get it to stop having issues.
I just don't want something that is going to cost me a small fortune in ammo just to get it running moderately well.
Funny thing is, I'll buy a Colt 1911 in a hearbeat. but I wouldn't touch one of their AR's. Not saying they're bad, just read about fitting issues with some, and I am more comfortable with what I have.
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Gotta second you on that. Heard too many reports and read too many posts of Kimber owners having to toss hundreds of rounds down the pipe to 'break it in' and get it to stop having issues.
I just don't want something that is going to cost me a small fortune in ammo just to get it running moderately well.
Funny thing is, I'll buy a Colt 1911 in a hearbeat. but I wouldn't touch one of their AR's. Not saying they're bad, just read about fitting issues with some, and I am more comfortable with what I have.
I've heard the same thing about newer kimbers and it's too bad. I have an older kimber custom tactical and after thousands of rounds down the pipe i've yet to experience a single issue.
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No, Fixer, it was actually the way that you phrased it about them. Nothing more.
I guess...all I said was, "I want to trust BCM." and "BCM posted the report in the past before changing barrel shops."

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Gotta second you on that. Heard too many reports and read too many posts of Kimber owners having to toss hundreds of rounds down the pipe to 'break it in' and get it to stop having issues.
I just don't want something that is going to cost me a small fortune in ammo just to get it running moderately well.
Funny thing is, I'll buy a Colt 1911 in a hearbeat. but I wouldn't touch one of their AR's. Not saying they're bad, just read about fitting issues with some, and I am more comfortable with what I have.
I wouldnt buy a Colt AR15 either. The anti-sear webbing is a deal breaker as is the stock.
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Gotta second you on that. ... I'll buy a Colt 1911 in a hearbeat. but I wouldn't touch one of their AR's. Not saying they're bad, just read about fitting issues with some, and I am more comfortable with what I have.
And I've gotta second you on some of that. I love my Colt Series 70 and I'd love to have a Colt M4gery. But like you I'm happy with my BCM build, it's the closest thing to a midlength Colt. Haven't heard about any recent Colt fitment issues though.
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I guess...all I said was, "I want to trust BCM." and "BCM posted the report in the past before changing barrel shops."



I wouldnt buy a Colt AR15 either. The anti-sear webbing is a deal breaker as is the stock.
Then I misread. I am no metallurgist, but I'll buy another BCM upper again with no worries about it. Reliable, durable and hits what you point it at, whether it's one round down the hill or 500.
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if i had to place a bet, i would bet that bcm gets their barrels from FN. there are not a lot if any hammer forge barrel makers in the US. especially for ar barrels in the quality bcm wants.

taken from:http://www.fnmfg.com/capabilities/Gun%20Barrels/

I wouldn't be surprised if that were true. FN's M16 contract prevents them from selling a similar product commercially in the US. But it seems FN barrels and other parts turn up for resale here and there, like PSA and Spikes - so why not BCM.
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I can't say anything bad about a Colt, I love their 1911s and the ARs and M4s have field tested from Vietnam to now. If I had the money, I would buy one.

As far as my barrel choice, I'll choose from what you guys recommended. Thank you for the advice.

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