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Old 04-06-2012, 02:00 PM   #11
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I really don't know. I absolutely refuse to enter socialist countries such as Cali or Chicago.
guess we need a cali resident to chime in here. i'll ask my favorite hippie, stillwater j/k
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guess we need a cali resident to chime in here. i'll ask my favorite hippie, stillwater j/k
Tikki will pop in as well. He's the resident commifornian who knows all their silly little rules.
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but doesn't "fixing" those things make them out of compliance in cali?

how does s&w make a "compliant" cali model if pistol grips are restricted? their compliant madel has a pistol grip and flash hinder. i thought these feature were not allowed in cali? am i wrong?
The OP has stated that he moved the rifle out of Kommiefornia and thus no longer needs it in the California Compliant Configuration.

Its kinda complicated to have here, but to sum it up quickly, you may have a magazine release rifle if that rifle does not have a flash hider, collapse-able or fold-able stock, or any sort of pistol grip. If you have a magazine release with any of these features it must be from a military or LEO issued, or been registered as an AW prior to the year 2000. If you have any of these features your rifle must have a permanently fixed magazine, and must require a tool to remove it.

If you do not have a flash hider, collapse-able or fold-able stock, or any sort of pistol grip, you may have a magazine release on your rifle.

It is also illegal to use a high capacity magazine on any permanent affixed magazine type rifle. You may only use preban high capacity magazine on a rilfe with no flash hider, collapse-able or fold-able stock, or any sort of pistol grip.

This applies to centerfire cartridges only. Rimfires are exempt to this rule.

Welcome to my pain.
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In Cali, all "evil" features are allowable as long as the rifle is equipped with the bullet button. Flash suppressors, pistol grip, bayonet lug, etc. The silly bullet button is easily defeated on any AR rifle; don't know about the Smith though.
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In Cali, all "evil" features are allowable as long as the rifle is equipped with the bullet button. Flash suppressors, pistol grip, bayonet lug, etc. The silly bullet button is easily defeated on any AR rifle; don't know about the Smith though.
so to sum it up, it is ok to have evil features and quick mag release. you just can't have both on the same gun, and you are limited to 10 round mags.

not as bad as i thought overall. still glad i don't have to deal with it though.

edit: what other type of guns are restricted? i heard the rossi ranch hand is restricted..true or flase?

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I believe the rossi is a no-no because the barrel length is less than 16", but I could be wrong though. Any of the black rifles are ok as long as they have the bullet button and no hi-cap mags. Rifles like the mini-14 ranch and the M1A are also legal. Both the mini and the M1A have quick release mags, but they don't have pistol grips, flash suppressors, or bayonet lugs. The M1A does have kind of a flash suppressor, but Springfield has wisely designated it a "muzzle brake", therefore it is Cali legal. Get it? I hope you do, because I sure as hell don't!
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No evil features here in Cali without castration.

No "Unsafe" handguns either, unless you're a cop or in the military.
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I believe the rossi is a no-no because the barrel length is less than 16", but I could be wrong though. Any of the black rifles are ok as long as they have the bullet button and no hi-cap mags. Rifles like the mini-14 ranch and the M1A are also legal. Both the mini and the M1A have quick release mags, but they don't have pistol grips, flash suppressors, or bayonet lugs. The M1A does have kind of a flash suppressor, but Springfield has wisely designated it a "muzzle brake", therefore it is Cali legal. Get it? I hope you do, because I sure as hell don't!
no, i don't get it. an M1A or garand that (scoped) can kill at almost 1000 yards is ok.......but a pistol grip .223 is considered more "dangerous"? yeah, makes perfect sense.

i'm a gunowner who completley supports common sense rules to keep people safe and try and keep guns out of the hands of known criminals. but nothing about these rules have any common sense or keep anyone safer.

but i guess am i am preaching to the choir here. thanks for the info.
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Another "who knows" cali anomally just happened to me the other day. Went to the local gun store to look at lowers. I looked at the evil black rifles up on display and I see a Colt M4 for sale. I nearly sheet myself. You see, Colt, Bushmaster and Armalite are some of the Cali. banned "brands" of rifles here and have been for years. I asked the owner about this and he proceeded to show me the receiver which was stamped Colt M4 5.56. Apparently, Colt got around this by not stamping the rifle "AR-15". Needless to say, I'm the new owner of an M4. Cali laws make perfect sense to me now.
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That's interesting, I thought in addition to "AR-15" the ABC names ArmaLite, Bushmaster and Colt weren't allowed in CA period, no matter what the model number. Funny you can have a Colt M4 but not AR-15, which sounds more evil!

Nice buy, by the way! Though it might be wise to doublecheck its legality via the statute or check at Calguns.net
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