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Old 08-21-2008, 12:17 PM   #1
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First, thank you for being so helpful to me on my other posts. You all are great! I spent a lot to time on the internet and reading old gun tests last night looking at different brands based on posts. I have narrowed it down to the bushmaster (super light flat top A3 telestock ?) and the RRA (had not heard of them till you). I went to my gun shop and priced them and I can get much cheaper than listed on intenet. What are your thoughts on these two brands? Between the two brands , which models do you like the best. I want a 16 inch that is not too heavy. Since I'm shelling out the big bucks, I want to make sure I get a good gun. Sorry to bother you all, hope my questions are not to silly.
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:51 PM   #2
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Of the choices you've listed, I would definitely select Rock River Arms; but, at the same time, I'd also checkout Stag Arms. (Exact same vacuum forged receiver!)

STAG ARMS

Did you say, 'big bucks'! Then don't overlook other high quality manufacturers like: Noveske, LMT, and SIG. (The SIG 556 has some very interesting features!)

I own a Colt 6920LE. I'm happy with it; but, if I went out tomorrow morning to buy another AR, it would be either a NOVESKE or a SIG 556

Best of luck whatever you choose!
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Between the two, I would have to say that Rock River has the better reputation for turning out high end stuff right now. That said, they also know it and are charging accordingly. They are a bit over priced in the market - and that opinion is shared by a lot of people.

However, with a new election looming, and the possibility of an anti gun president and Congress, people have been buying what they can before any new legislation hits ( guns, ammo, accessories )

As for the "big bucks" - Don't believe the hype. There are a LOT of parts ( like receivers & barrels & internals ) that are all made at the same place, by the same people, they just put a different stamp on the showy pieces and dress them up a little differently from manufacturer to manufacturer.

Unless you are buying a totally custom build, like a D&L Sports or Les Baer, you are probably getting very similiar parts in both the models you are looking at.

The trick with an AR is to get the right one for your use and perform due dilligence on your gun training and maintenance. The weapon platform is solid and it's reliable, but you have to do your part too.

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Thanks for the responces. I'm going to look at the RRA's again.

Ammo - I never thought Ammo would be an issue. How much Ammo are you all stocking up on? Also, as far as parts, what should I think about getting spares of? I never thought of that....

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Well, first off I would probably suggest getting a rifle that is chambered in .223 Wylde. Then you can safely shoot both civilian .223 and military type NATO 5.56mm. People will tell you that they are all interchangable, but they aren't, and it's been discussed, ad nausem, on the forum here. I believe most of us are on the same page that the Wylde chamber is the recognized "safe" way to handle the pressure of both rounds not have to worry.

As for ammo - all you can get your hands on.

Seriously, I have three .223's and I currently have about 1200 rounds at the house. I will probably add some more before the election, just to be on the safe side. I have heard plenty of people plan on 500 rounds for each AR/AK style rifle, and that seems like a good round figure to me.

As for parts - well, that opens a can of worms. How much is enough, and how much is too much? Opinions vary. Personally, I have started ordering a little extra "replacement" stuff for a tacklebox each time I do an online order. My goal is to have enough "high use" stuff to build a complete new model, if I had to, from closet stock. I don't think you are planning on invading a country anytime soon, so you can probably add some of this stuff over time. You certainly don't need to rush right out and purchase every available thing that can be replaced right up front. Buy a piece here and there, over time, as you use the weapon and get more familiar with it.

Magazines - Always good to have plenty of those on hand. Most guys on here probably have 20 or more lying around the house... LOL I have about 30 or 35 between my three weapons. Probably should order up some more thinking about it....

Extra Magazine springs - If you use your mags alot during training / practice, it's a good idea to get some mag springs to change yours out every so often. I am sure there is an acceptable time / round count for the change out, but I am too lazy to look it up and I don't want to misquote it. Someone here will know it for sure....

Springs and pins are cheap. You can get a spring kit and a pin & detent kit from places like Brownells and MidwayUSA for probably $20 to $30 total. It would be good to have on hand in case you lose/break/foul up one while doing whatever with it. Generally speaking, if you are putting through several thousand rounds a year in training and practice, you should plan on changing them once in awhile anyways.

Replacement BCG - Bolt Carrier Group. It can't go bang if this is fouled out. They aren't cheap, and if you maintain yours, it will probably last a long, long time. But, if you want to be super prepared, having a back up wouldn't hurt.

However, you can buy a complete BCG refurbish kit for much cheaper than you can buy a spare bolt and carrier. Having the kit would require a bit of time to do the work, where having a replacement would be a drop in fix. Not super critical, but it wouldn't hurt to have one somewhere down the road.

Pipe cleaners - good for cleaning the gas tube. Probably the most overlooked part of the system that very few people actually do the work on, but it's actually the backbone of the weapon system.

Extra brass brushes and cleaning products for maintenance. I would stay away from the famous WD-40 and magic wonders like that. It creeps and "can" ( and watch this start some controversy ) seep into one of the top rounds in your weapon, should you keep it loaded, and keep the powder from going off.

I am sure I am forgetting something - but someone here will chip in. The weapon system itself is pretty easy and pretty reliable. If you take care of it, it will take care of you, just like most everything else.

JD

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