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 01-02-2008, 01:32 AM | #1 | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 16 |  building ar-15
ok i have no clue what to get and where to get i no i want a longer range capable rifle.like i said i dont know where to get the lower, upper, stock ,and scope, and anything else im forgetting or not knowing.also i live by rock river arms so can i get all the gear from there are if all the rock river arms stuff is good and a lil on the cheaper side.oh ya one more thing tryin to kinda get a lil cheaper one prolly bout six hundred to a grand maybe 1,100.so ya i need alot of help.any usefull help well be thanked. | 
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| 01-02-2008, 01:42 AM | #2 | Supporting Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,885 |
If you don't know how to go about doing the whole thing, why not just buy a complete rifle? If I'm not mistaken, Rock River will pretty much put together the parts that you ask them to. | |
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| 01-02-2008, 01:50 AM | #3 | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 16 |
well i could do that but i think building it would be a fun experience plus cheaper.plus im young so possible carrer.
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| 01-02-2008, 10:05 AM | #5 | Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 5,562 Likes Given: 4
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Sounds fine. You might be able to score one a little cheaper, but it's probably not worth the hassle. Bear in mind this part is the rifle in the eyes of the law and this is where you may need an FFL to handle the transfer.
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That will be fine. If you can find an LPK with a two-stage trigger cheap, I'd suggest getting it. But, you can always upgrade the trigger later. (A two-stage is smoother and might make a difference for long-range use.)
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If possible, I'd go with a 5.56 NATO chamber which can accommodate a .223 round.
Personally, I like the short barrel (16") but you're looking for a long-range tack driver, so a longer barrel would make sense. A 1 in 8 twist is fine. Many are 1 in 9, but it shouldn't be a big deal. Personally, I recommend a chrome-lined barrel.
Also, the barrels on these uppers are not threaded to take a flash hider or muzzle break. That may not be an issue for you. There are no iron sights on this upper, either.
The price on this upper seems high. You can get a new Stag upper for close to $500. Look around a little more to see if you can't bring this price down some.
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Yes, it says it comes with buffer, spring and tube. The lower parts kit for your lower should come with the other parts you'll need. The buffer is disassembled 'til you get the stock attached to the lower. The buffer is easy to put together, though. __________________
When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing; when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors; when you see that men get rich more easily by graft than by work, and your laws no longer protect you against them but protect them against you...you may know that your society is doomed. ~Ayn Rand | |
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| 01-02-2008, 01:25 PM | #6 | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 16 |
If possible, I'd go with a 5.56 NATO chamber which can accommodate a .223 round.
Personally, I like the short barrel (16") but you're looking for a long-range tack driver, so a longer barrel would make sense. A 1 in 8 twist is fine. Many are 1 in 9, but it shouldn't be a big deal. Personally, I recommend a chrome-lined barrel.
Also, the barrels on these uppers are not threaded to take a flash hider or muzzle break. That may not be an issue for you. There are no iron sights on this upper, either.
The price on this upper seems high. You can get a new Stag upper for close to $500. Look around a little more to see if you can't bring this price down some.
if i stray away from the two stage trigger will i be able to put it on later?
well this is a .223 or 5.56 oppistit of what u said but does that make a diffrence
i think if i pay another 35 or sumin i get the chrome lined i dont plan on a suppresor or MB and i dont want the sites
u said stags are cheap but do they come with the bolt carrier or charging handle this one comes with it and it might kinda be a hastle to get good one so...still bad deal or not?
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| 01-02-2008, 01:36 PM | #7 | Supporting Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,885 |
.223 Wylde would be a good choice, but I'd look for a 5.56x45 NATO first. 6.8 Rem is a good option too. It has the range of a .223 Rem, but it has much better terminal ballistics, though the ammo will be more expensive, so if it's going to be a range gun, stick with .223 Wylde or, better yet, look for one chambered in the higher pressure 5.56x45 NATO and be sure to get the chrome lined barrel.
Other than that, I don't know a whole lot about ARs, so I'm out of my league answering questions about the quality of your components.
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| 01-02-2008, 04:59 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Newport, Vermont Posts: 1,110 |
You may want to check out Model 1 Sales. They have about every configuration, caliber, barrel length you could want. The prices are about the best around as well. Complete varmint upper stainless 16, 20 or 24", "kit" less lower $535, that's EVERYTHING but the lower itself. Bolt, carrier, upper, stock, lower parts kit, etc. I built a CAR using their kit, put it on a Stag lower and am very impressed. I took it to training recently and easily kept up with guys shooting $$$ Colts and $$$ Rock River stuff. This was a police course and the guns got beat pretty hard. My "parts gun" held up great, and accuracy wise, I qualified 3rd out of 20 guys that were all SWAT guys (I am not, just a "regular" cop and shooter). Just my 2 cents. | |
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| 01-02-2008, 08:54 PM | #10 | Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 5,562 Likes Given: 4
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if i stray away from the two stage trigger will i be able to put it on later?
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Yes, you can add a drop-in replacement two-stage trigger any time you like.
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well this is a .223 or 5.56 oppistit of what u said but does that make a diffrence
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The two rounds are similar but sufficiently different that it is recommended you get a 5.56. Throat length and pressure are the two main differences. If you get a rifle chambered for 5.56, you can use a .223 with no worries. But if you get a rifle chambered for .223, your rifle could be damaged or destroyed using a 5.56 round. It's just something to think about.
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i think if i pay another 35 or sumin i get the chrome lined i dont plan on a suppresor or MB and i dont want the sites
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Chrome-lined barrels wear a bit better and some believe accuracy is improved. If you want nothing on the muzzle, that's fine. Same deal with the iron sights -- just thought I'd mention it.
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u said stags are cheap but do they come with the bolt carrier or charging handle this one comes with it and it might kinda be a hastle to get good one so...still bad deal or not?
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Yes, the uppers are complete with the bold carrier group. Check the Equipment Exchange on ar15.com and look for uppers. The Stag I got was from Legal Transfers there, but it's a short barrel. I think the cost is around $500 now. __________________
When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing; when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors; when you see that men get rich more easily by graft than by work, and your laws no longer protect you against them but protect them against you...you may know that your society is doomed. ~Ayn Rand | |
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