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Old 01-02-2008, 01:32 AM   #1
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ok i have no clue what to get and where to get i no i want a longer range capable rifle.like i said i dont know where to get the lower, upper, stock ,and scope, and anything else im forgetting or not knowing.also i live by rock river arms so can i get all the gear from there are if all the rock river arms stuff is good and a lil on the cheaper side.oh ya one more thing tryin to kinda get a lil cheaper one prolly bout six hundred to a grand maybe 1,100.so ya i need alot of help.any usefull help well be thanked.

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Old 01-02-2008, 01:42 AM   #2
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If you don't know how to go about doing the whole thing, why not just buy a complete rifle? If I'm not mistaken, Rock River will pretty much put together the parts that you ask them to.

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well i could do that but i think building it would be a fun experience plus cheaper.plus im young so possible carrer.

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ok ive been lokking alot and ive found some parts i need confirmation onif there good parts or not
and price check


DPMS stripped lower reciever-110$
http://www.del-ton.com/DPMS_Lower_Receiver_p/lr1000.htm

semi lower parts kit-57.95$
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-Lower-Parts-Kit-p/lpk%20-%20semi.htm

.223 wylde chamber complete varmint a4 16",18",20",or 24"(need help for that) 1:8 twist-580-610$(complete with bolt carrior group and charging handle assembly)
http://www.rockriverarms.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=AR0500X&storeid=1&image=uva407.gif&C FID=6629481&CFTOKEN=99366695

DPMS AR-15 panthar tactical palm grip-39.95$
http://www.floridagunworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FG&Product_Code =903&Category_Code=ARA+GRIPS

ar-15 Standard A2 buttstock assembly black, comes with buffer, tube(is this fully built or it comes with all the parts and i have to assemble it?)-69.99$
http://www.gunrunner1000.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=32_12&produ cts_id=191

Bushnell Trophy 3-12x56mm Matte Rifle Scope-179.94$
http://www.opticsplanet.net/bushnell-trophy-3-12x56mm-infrared-eu-ir-reticle-riflescope-733125e.html

if im missing anything im a retard and please tell me what im missing or any better parts for cheaper or complaints on any item on haw

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ok ive been lokking alot and ive found some parts i need confirmation onif there good parts or not
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DPMS stripped lower reciever-110$
http://www.del-ton.com/DPMS_Lower_Receiver_p/lr1000.htm
Sounds fine. You might be able to score one a little cheaper, but it's probably not worth the hassle. Bear in mind this part is the rifle in the eyes of the law and this is where you may need an FFL to handle the transfer.

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That will be fine. If you can find an LPK with a two-stage trigger cheap, I'd suggest getting it. But, you can always upgrade the trigger later. (A two-stage is smoother and might make a difference for long-range use.)

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.223 wylde chamber complete varmint a4 16",18",20",or 24"(need help for that) 1:8 twist-580-610$(complete with bolt carrior group and charging handle assembly)
http://www.rockriverarms.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=AR0500X&storeid=1&image=uva407.gif&C FID=6629481&CFTOKEN=99366695
If possible, I'd go with a 5.56 NATO chamber which can accommodate a .223 round.

Personally, I like the short barrel (16") but you're looking for a long-range tack driver, so a longer barrel would make sense. A 1 in 8 twist is fine. Many are 1 in 9, but it shouldn't be a big deal. Personally, I recommend a chrome-lined barrel.

Also, the barrels on these uppers are not threaded to take a flash hider or muzzle break. That may not be an issue for you. There are no iron sights on this upper, either.

The price on this upper seems high. You can get a new Stag upper for close to $500. Look around a little more to see if you can't bring this price down some.

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DPMS AR-15 panthar tactical palm grip-39.95$
http://www.floridagunworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FG&Product_Code =903&Category_Code=ARA+GRIPS

ar-15 Standard A2 buttstock assembly black, comes with buffer, tube(is this fully built or it comes with all the parts and i have to assemble it?)-69.99$
http://www.gunrunner1000.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=32_12&produ cts_id=191
Yes, it says it comes with buffer, spring and tube. The lower parts kit for your lower should come with the other parts you'll need. The buffer is disassembled 'til you get the stock attached to the lower. The buffer is easy to put together, though.
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If possible, I'd go with a 5.56 NATO chamber which can accommodate a .223 round.

Personally, I like the short barrel (16") but you're looking for a long-range tack driver, so a longer barrel would make sense. A 1 in 8 twist is fine. Many are 1 in 9, but it shouldn't be a big deal. Personally, I recommend a chrome-lined barrel.

Also, the barrels on these uppers are not threaded to take a flash hider or muzzle break. That may not be an issue for you. There are no iron sights on this upper, either.

The price on this upper seems high. You can get a new Stag upper for close to $500. Look around a little more to see if you can't bring this price down some.

if i stray away from the two stage trigger will i be able to put it on later?

well this is a .223 or 5.56 oppistit of what u said but does that make a diffrence

i think if i pay another 35 or sumin i get the chrome lined i dont plan on a suppresor or MB and i dont want the sites

u said stags are cheap but do they come with the bolt carrier or charging handle this one comes with it and it might kinda be a hastle to get good one so...still bad deal or not?

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.223 Wylde would be a good choice, but I'd look for a 5.56x45 NATO first. 6.8 Rem is a good option too. It has the range of a .223 Rem, but it has much better terminal ballistics, though the ammo will be more expensive, so if it's going to be a range gun, stick with .223 Wylde or, better yet, look for one chambered in the higher pressure 5.56x45 NATO and be sure to get the chrome lined barrel.

Other than that, I don't know a whole lot about ARs, so I'm out of my league answering questions about the quality of your components.

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hey thanks for the help man




makin a new list see if i can cut the price a lil


Stag Arms AR-15 .223 Stripped Lower-98$
http://www.gunsamerica.com/976972363/Guns/Rifles/Stag-Arms/Lower-Only/Stag_Arms_AR_15_223_Stripped_Lowe.htm


Complete lower parts kits to finish your AR15 lower receiver-57.95$
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-Lower-Parts-Kit-p/lpk%20-%20semi.htm

24" varmint upper half(it has options heres what im thinking correct me if im retarded)chose chamber have no clue which is better,CHOOSE FREE FLOAT & SWIVEL STUD 2 piece free float alumminum tube dont know what this is but its cheaper,ADD PICATINNY FRONT SIGHT none,ADD BIPOD none,CHOOSE BARREL 1:14 twist,ADD CARRY HANDLE & REAR SIGHT none,ADD BOLT CARRIER GROUP & CHARGING HANDLE bolt carrier group std changing handle-500$(i do believe they have other calibers like 6mm and .204 im not sure if its chrome lined if not totally scratch it?)
http://www.model1sales.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=UV2414&storeid=1&image=uvarm2414.gif

Butt Stock, A2, New Black-19.95(down bout mid page no pic will it come with all the stuff to hook it up to my rifle or is that why its so cheap.)
http://www.fulton-armory.com/M6Parts2.htm

Bushmaster 5 &10 Round Magazines-20.95$(prolly get 2 10 rounds)
http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_parts_magazines.asp#30452

3-12x50 Mil-Dot-75$
http://www.crankyfarmer.com/Illuminated_Scopes.html

tell me if im missin aNYTHING

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You may want to check out Model 1 Sales. They have about every configuration, caliber, barrel length you could want. The prices are about the best around as well. Complete varmint upper stainless 16, 20 or 24", "kit" less lower $535, that's EVERYTHING but the lower itself. Bolt, carrier, upper, stock, lower parts kit, etc. I built a CAR using their kit, put it on a Stag lower and am very impressed. I took it to training recently and easily kept up with guys shooting $$$ Colts and $$$ Rock River stuff. This was a police course and the guns got beat pretty hard. My "parts gun" held up great, and accuracy wise, I qualified 3rd out of 20 guys that were all SWAT guys (I am not, just a "regular" cop and shooter). Just my 2 cents.

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if i stray away from the two stage trigger will i be able to put it on later?
Yes, you can add a drop-in replacement two-stage trigger any time you like.

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well this is a .223 or 5.56 oppistit of what u said but does that make a diffrence
The two rounds are similar but sufficiently different that it is recommended you get a 5.56. Throat length and pressure are the two main differences. If you get a rifle chambered for 5.56, you can use a .223 with no worries. But if you get a rifle chambered for .223, your rifle could be damaged or destroyed using a 5.56 round. It's just something to think about.

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i think if i pay another 35 or sumin i get the chrome lined i dont plan on a suppresor or MB and i dont want the sites
Chrome-lined barrels wear a bit better and some believe accuracy is improved. If you want nothing on the muzzle, that's fine. Same deal with the iron sights -- just thought I'd mention it.

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u said stags are cheap but do they come with the bolt carrier or charging handle this one comes with it and it might kinda be a hastle to get good one so...still bad deal or not?
Yes, the uppers are complete with the bold carrier group. Check the Equipment Exchange on ar15.com and look for uppers. The Stag I got was from Legal Transfers there, but it's a short barrel. I think the cost is around $500 now.
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